Religious NGO Jamiyyathu Salaf held a sermon titled ‘Al Andhalus’ on Tuesday, in which they described the current status of the Maldives and offered a prediction of the fate of the country “if people back an irreligious man”.
The sermon was broadcast live on Radio Atoll and on four TV channels, including state broadcaster, TVM. While the sermon was interrupted on TVM for violating the state broadcaster’s guidelines, it was shown in full on the other channels, including VTV and DhiTV.
The following is an abridged translation of the sermon “Al Andhalus” delivered by Sheikh Adam Shameem. A link to the televised coverage can be found here.
“Upon hearing the news that I am to come here, my beloved mother asked of me, due to the current time and situation, not to speak of politics. However, I hope my mother, family firstly, and the rest of you do not misinterpret the meaning of this topic, as well as the meaning of speaking about politics. This is because politics and religion are concepts that people are often confused about. What we, our scholars, have always asserted is that politics and religion are not two separate religions or concepts. Politics is the sturdiest, most important component of Islam.”
“Love the pious, despise the unbelievers”
“In a Friday sermon I gave last year on the topic of ‘Al Walaa Al Bar’aa’, I spoke of how we must, for the sake of Allah, love those pious and faithful to Allah, and despise those who are unbelievers or those who hate Allah or his religion. Even among believers, there must be a difference between the love we have for the righteous and pious, and those who are led astray.”
“When we think of Andalus, we see history repeating itself. If we repeat the mistakes made in history, we will face the same fate. If we learn from them, and refrain from those mistakes, Allah will save us from that fate. If we are negligent and allow the reasons for those countries’ misfortune to occur in our country, then there is no doubt that we will have to face sorrowful times.”
“I have come here today to give you the frightening warning that this beloved Muslim nation may have to face similar misfortune.”
“Spain, or Andalus, which had an 800 year old Islamic state, an Islamic Caliphate, had Islam wiped out of it in under just 300 years. The Islamic power there allowed Jews to live there with freedom, Christians also lived in happiness and freedom under this power. And yet, even the name of Islam was wiped out of it in under 300 years, and even today Spain is the country with the least number of Muslims” – [here Shameem concluded with a statement alleging that Islam had been wiped out of Andalus after the Muslims built relations with non-Muslims].
‘Multiparty systems are against Islam’
“Prophet Muhammad married Aesha when she was 9 years of age, we do not deny this. However, this was the norm among Arabs in those times, and because it is not inhumane, Allah made it ‘halal’. However, this is not something that the Prophet preached as religion to the masses. People who describe Islam as such are enemies of Islam. They spread such lies to create hatred towards Islam. I mean, it is the truth that they speak, but they speak it so as to spread confusion and to make people hate Islam.”
“The death penalty is there. But it is Allah’s justice. However, in order to spread fear they say Islam is a dangerous religion where we amputate hands and behead people. So unless we all strive to protect our faith and religion, Islam will be wiped out of here too.”
“Our current state right now is that due to business or political relations, some of us love kafirs. They joke around with them, ride behind them on motorcycles, do everything with them. Yet they have envy and hatred burning in their hearts for their Muslim brothers. Beloved Muslim brothers, this is why Andalus fell. They started loving non-Muslims, and hating Muslims. Due to politics, Muslim brothers fell apart into different groups and parties and started competing against each other. As a result, to topple an Islamic power of one’s Muslim brother, they built relations with Jews and Christians.”
“Tomorrow, what will happen if this Maldives splits into different powers? How can we say it won’t happen when one group wants Islamic governance, another wants European governance, another wants a secular governance where state and religion are kept separate? Breaking up into parties is the basis of weakening and destruction of a people. Therefore Allah has prohibited this. However, modern, secular democracy comes and says that this shouldn’t be so, that we need multi-party politics, where each party has a different ideology, religion, ‘fiqh’ and discipline.”
Islam and politics
“What we are seeing today are attempts to bring in western secular democracy to an Islamic country. A land where there is no chance of praying to any God except Allah. With God’s will, this country is so far in the hands of Muslims, an islamic governance. But now that is near to changing. There is just one single clause in our constitution which says no law can be ratified if it is against Islamic Principles. However, political parties have the right to say what they please. Once this clause is removed, we lose everything. In the struggle among political parties to come to power, we are seeing dangerous parallels with the real reasons why Andalus fell: seeking help from non-Muslim leaders, bringing in their power and companies to our country. It is not prohibited to have non-Muslim labourers, but if we let any non-Muslim entities exert their power, even in business, over Muslims in our land, that is the end of us.”
“If you see a non-Muslim, start keeping his company, fall in love with him and start admiring his way of life, where will you put your religion? It will slip away from your hands. We must strongly hold on to faith in ‘Al walaa al bar’aa’. How can Jews and Christians love each other when they have so much enmity between them? But, despite their internal hatred and differences, they become twin brothers in any circumstance where they want to rise against Muslims”
“Do not make those who mock your religion into your allies. We Muslims are obliged to love each other. If someone leaves their faith in Islam and mocks religion, then they are among the Jews and Christians. We must stick to this whether this person who mocks religion is from our families or close friends. It is Allah’s command.”
“Today many of our politicians and other Muslims seem to bow down to non-Muslim rich and powerful people. Even people who are seen as our leaders, when they are among kafirs, see it as normal to act like them and refer to themselves as one of them. A man who at least claims to be a Muslim, who shows some Islamic values when among Muslims, who – like many of our Muslims – attend Friday prayers, people like this are increasing among us today. When among kafirs, they eat what they eat, drink what they drink and the saddest thing is, they express more love for the kafir’s religion than the kafirs themselves. They point out the weak points of Islam, and advise the kafir on how to work against Islam or an Islamic state. They have stooped to this level today.”
‘Liberal means Ladhini’
“Listen, in our presidential candidates, or politicians, how many of them have clearly stated internationally and nationally that they want a secular democracy, and that we do not yet have a secular democracy in our country? Everyone is pleased when this word is used. This astounds me.”
“Now, in Arabic, ‘secular democracy’ or ‘secularism’ or ‘liberalism’ or liberal whatever, what does it mean? If it comes with the words ‘secular’ or ‘liberal’, it means something without religion. Regardless of what it is we speak of.”
“A liberal religion means ladhini [irreligious]. What does it mean when they say they want Islam, but not the 7th century? You can interpret it for yourselves.”
Criticism of politics and politicians
“In my recent travels to the islands, I went to some where ‘local tourism’ has been introduced. I am not saying that guesthouse businesses are haram, or that this will lead to only haram acts. But if we can’t hold tourism within Islamic standards, that will be what destroys us. We are selling pork and alcohol in our tourism field. We must control and stop this, or we will not get Allah’s blessings.”
“Thankfully, due to Allah’s mercy and the work of some politicians, alcohol and pork are today only sold in tourist resorts, which is a place in which Muslims don’t live. I am not saying it is halal, but it is good for us that this is done in places where we don’t live. Therefore, in these islands which have local tourism – which was introduced in the name of a political party – dear lord, the things that happen there. Yes, these islands may earn more dollars, but even today, alcohol is being consumed in these islands. Friends of mine from these islands have told me that as the island gets dollars from tourists, they hold ‘bodu beru’ shows for tourists, where they drink alcohol and dance while locals – Muslims – stand around and applaud them.”
“Some people tell us that despite supporting a certain politician, their faith cannot be changed, although they say they know [the politician] does not believe in Allah. I am very happy that there are people with such strong faith among us. It is indeed an extraordinary man who can hold onto his faith while being with a kafir, an infidel who commits sinful acts and uses intoxicating substances. However, he used to say there will be no way any other religion can be practised here, but his tune has changed. Today he says that despite churches being built, his faith will personally not change. That people of other religions should also be able to live here freely and be granted rights as Islam is a peaceful, just and caring religion. This is very true, but what he wants is a horrible result. He wants to challenge Allah about the justice in our religion.”
“He means to say that Muslims, being from a just religion, should not harass or act against people praying to other religions in churches while in other countries, Muslims are being inhumanly slaughtered and stripped of their belongings. Andalus is a sufficient example of this. Therefore, Allah has commanded that we should not allow sinful acts in an islamic land of tawheed.”
“If we want to maintain peace in this country, we must never allow any other religion here. If we do, we will face the fate of Andalus tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow, it won’t take long.”
“The enemies of the state are also seeing this, and the Satan is getting depressed about this. As in, when a man who used to be a drugdealer or criminal comes to mosque today, wears a turban and raises his hands to Allah in prayer and repentance, the blood [of the enemies] will boil. They will lose hold of their senses and rain their envy on us.”
“A man who previously worked with them then repents and comes to us and says ‘Sheikh, I have done this against Islam, we have done this against Sheikhs, I have assisted these persons to work against Islam. How will I ever repent?’ This is why I, and some of my other scholar colleagues, never switch off our phones even in the middle of the night. I have always from long long away, always taken care to never switch off my phone as somebody might call and ask for advice at any time of the night. There is no one except the advice of Allah and his Prophet that can answer these queries. The People’s majlis can’t provide answers. UN won’t find answers for these questions. Denmark’s Christians and Jesuits cannot provide answers, they are a disabled people. Therefore the atheists of Europe who claim there is no religion or God, who formed secularism or irreligiousness in Europe are now on the losing end. When the christianity that existed there started contradicting with material development, they boycotted christianity. They pushed out religion from policies and said the state will not be based on any religion.”
“Many citizens are confused about the idea of separating religion from politics. The actual meaning of secular democracy is that there will be no religion in the state, that there will be no fiqh academy to criticize or give advice to the state on matters of religion. Scholars are to live like other common folk. They are to stay in their homes or churches or mosques and speak, but in a limited manner. They can advise someone to pray but they cannot say that something is haram, and should not be allowed.”
“This is Heaven, Heaven on Earth and they [kafirs] will want to rule over us, and spread their ways here.”
“Fear of Allah is one of the main things God commanded. This is because if someone does business without fear, plays sports without fear, has fun without fear or does anything without fear, he will become ruined and become a prey for Satan. How can we take any other meaning of this? In this country, without any gender segregation, people mix and play, hold music shows”
“What worries is not just that they say things against Islam and faith. What we should be more worried and scared of is sitting to listen as he speaks in public, in flowing dhivehi language, against Allah and His religion; of continuing to listen to a man as he openly ridicules the right path that the Prophet showed us. This is far more dangerous. There are people who have gone astray in any community. However, the reason that communities have to face the wrath of God is when they continue to listen to such a man, and fail to stand up against such men”
“Egypt’s Ihwanul Muslimin- Morsi – won in ‘one round’. Why did he succeed in winning in one round, instead of having to try in three or four rounds? Because he is from a religious organisation which wants to establish Islamic governance.”
Criticism of International Community
“When [in Maldives] they couldn’t win in one round, what did they then say? They said ‘Look. In a country which you say is 100% Muslim, nearly 50% of the people have voted for us – for a man who is a drug addict, a marijuana addict – so this means when we win we should make narcotics legal. This wasn’t said by religious extremists, or by scholars of Adhaalath Party. This was said by….you have heard his name”.
“He lives abroad in a neighbouring country now, and has claimed will come back and legalize homosexuality here. After the government changed, he was in the front row of protests with a placard on which red lips were drawn and the words, “I love A N N I” was written. He has openly mocked the Prophet. He protested in Male’ asking to allow other religions here.”
“The police turned a blind eye on it due to the negligence of the government then in power. We heard on the news that some youth struggled with them and chased them away. Then, he had hurt some little place on his head and a drop of blood fell, this group published photos of this on the internet. wrote ‘these are such violent people”, and used this to get the sympathy of the international community.
And it worked, the whole world believed them. Even UN took is an issue, but in Myanmar the Muslims are beings slaughtered, same in Syria and Eqypt. Where is the UN then? Where are these allies of idolatry who call for peace? Nothing. Not a word from them. If a religion of idolatry gets accepted here, and they get legal rights to live here, then we are done for, there will be much more unrest and discord here. And on top of that, even if they have only about ten of them here, if walking past one of them a bearded man trips and falls, the UN will come there. The UN will come and arrest the bearded man. It will then take photos of anyone who resembles the man, and arrest them too. They will then use their force and power to provide full freedom to these ten or so idolaters, and weaken us. They will separate islands and put up crosses there and claim it to be a separate nation. This is how they operate.”
“Scholars have highest responsibility to protect Islam”
“The biggest failure of Andalus is that the majority of Islamic scholars failed to stand up against what was happening there, be it to do with economy or entertainment or whatever. The mandate of a scholar is to stand up united if things happen against islamic principles, whether it be to do with economy, discipline or politics.”
“You have been given the opportunity to read the Quran and sunnah and learn from it. You have been chosen from among many humans and have been made heirs of the Prophet. Your responsibility is far more than that of any other. On the day of judgement, God will ask of you about the people, about the citizens. Whether you spoke the truth. You will be asked if you stood up and spoke the truth as the people were being given wrongful advice and led astray. We must be ready to answer these questions. At the least, we must be people who protested against this. Muslims must be able to live as in the Quran and sunnah without fear. This is what we must do without fear.”
“I must say that I do not preach with complete freedom now. I do not want to fear anyone but Allah. I do not want to be afraid that some other human might get displeased, or throw things at me. It is not without fear that I preach, or even go to the mosque. Why? Such a tragedy as has never happened in the country’s history happened recently. Dr. Afrasheem was murdered. Who did this? What brutal tyrants? Do such a people have the right to speak of guaranteeing freedoms? Do such a people have the right to speak of making this place more of a paradise? No, they cannot. This country had a lot of hope in Afrasheem. He and I had some differences in relation to religious principles, but as Muslims we respected and were civil to each other.”
“Previously we have heard many people say this country was ruined by a 30 year regime. Yet, they have shown they are liars today. They sing another song now. Ask them today who ruined this country, they will say it is religious scholars. Beloved Muslims, no country will ever be ruined by religious scholars. There might be a few such people among scholars, but they cannot generally say that against the scholars. We must all say the same thing and stand up against this.”
Army and police
“Allah will protect this religion if we say the words that with Allah and the Prophet, we are ready to come out to jihad and sacrifice our lives to protect our religion. If people give up ‘jihad’ for religion, that is another reason for the fall of an islamic country. Not ‘jihad’ in the way the Westerns interpret it. To sacrifice as much as we each can. The rich can donate their wealth. The young and strong can serve to defend us by forming Islamic armies. Or standing up against Islam. By coming out to war if that is needed to save the country and religion from irreligious, brutal people.”
“Women should be taught modesty. No one is saying to not educate them. They should be disciplined to be patient, courageous, strong mothers. They are the ones who produce men. They are the madrasas responsible for upbringing of men. That is the high importance of women.”
“The role of youth is to protect Islam. In this way, Allah’s love and praise for ‘mujahiddeen’ is best deserved by the army and police of the Maldives for protecting the country and religion. They are sacrificing their lives for our nation, religion and the Islamic community”
“May Allah ensure the security forces are pious and courageous people who do not allow any religion except Islam into the Maldives, and protect the nation and Islam.”
“It is a very wrongful act to defame the security forces when people speak at political podiums, streets or through media. This is an act that will destroy the nation. It is a wrong, evil and hurtful act done by some among us to openly allege that all police officers, soldiers and political opponents are evil and wrong people.”
“This country will have a dark future if we allow the police and army to be exposed to the training sessions given by non-Muslims, outright kafirs, in the guise of professional development. The kafirs will then have an opportunity to make the police and army hate Islam”
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US is the reason why this government is considered legitimate. We have never seen US Embassies presence in Maldives and engagement with Maldives Defense Ministry to the extent we are witnessing during this coup government. So I hope they have no more complains on what these Mullahs's preach as they are backed by this government. US has been hell bent on saving this coup government. They failed to understand Waheed's political weight, 5%.
I hope anymore MDP government will never do anything to appease the international community. We did enough but they never appreciated nor helped when we needed it during the coup.
According to the Sheikh women are there to produce 'strong' men. So women is all for men. In return men will keep women safe and protected
This man is crazy.. He has nothing but hatred in is sick pea brain . He has to justify his corrupt, crazy behaviors in the name of God and Prophet. This crazy man married an 11 yr old child and rapes her .. That is what perverts do. Why is trying to show us he is God fearing .. honestly it makes me vomit. I can only wish these kind of fanatics have a painful life leave alone the after life
This is yet another proof that the Arabian culture, that is propagated bu Arabs, as the Creators endorsed religion, is but a farce.
If the Creator wished the Andalusia to remain a certain cult, he would have made it so. The fact it turned Christian, is Creators wish!
Don't you get it. Its money, power, wealth and sex, that drives the leaders to their dreams. Creator does not play ANY part in it. Some leaders want the followers be ignorant (as all Muslims leaders wish) which makes it so very easy to control them. Some have cultivated Democracy to inject sense and logic in to the control. As most modern democratic countries want to do.
Now Mordisians have had enough of this subjugated Arabian Camel-herders culture. We want Anni as the president. And deport these Sheikhs to Pakistan or Afghanistan.
Some parts are missing though.
His description Maldives young men was interesting and quite good. He says boys are so effimate now, when they walk they make more curves than women
Not bad
Good. Such extremist rhetoric will only make people think and question Islam. For far too long have Dhivehistanis been apathetic to Wahhabism. More of these lectures will convince them that mullahs want to rape children, behead apostates, amputate and stone people, ban alcohol and pork sale, cut off diplomatic relations with kaafir countries, brainwash young men to go for holy war, force women to stay at home as bodybagged breeding machines, etc etc.
The moderates are still silent obviously and some even defend this mullah's contradictory and historically inaccurate rant. They may attack homosexuals and kaafir Maldivians and spill a "drop of" our blood first, but your turn is coming. When this place become Arabized, and the elite leave the country, you'll be left with nothing but memories of a liberal past, just like the Iranians and Afghans.
The Sheikh makes an excellent point regarding women, a point I have iterated and reiterated many times over.
Only virtuous wombs beget virtuous offspring, therefore it is of paramount importance that our women be educated on the importance of modesty, virtue and on being a proper mother.
Otherwise she will fall victim to western fallacies such as feminism which will: strip her of her dignity by encouraging immodest attire and behavior; humiliate her by encouraging her to take on roles that are better suited for men; and finally, delay her from marriage, thus ensuring that she will have to navigate a confusing and cruel world without the guidance of a wise, faithful and rational husband.
Sheikh never mentioned about MDP or Nasheed yet MDP is jumping up and down and threading this shiekh and even MBC board . This is how far a democracy goes within MDP.
When someone says something which might be inline with thier action and yet that is not in favor of them and MDP and Nasheed will threat the individual and groups and give warnings .
MDP and Nasheed had no tolerance and ability to digest any criticism and they want everyone to be a follower .
Thank you very much and we have now learnt a lesson from this guy
Just checking my calendar to make sure this is actually the 21st Century.
Does ANY Maldivian politician believe in liberty for the sake of liberty, or is talk of liberty just a ploy to win Western support, or prestige, or position, or WORK or money?
I always greatly over estimate the amount of reason and compassion in the minds of politicians, and look like a naive idiot because of it.
I once respected both Maumoon and Anni, believing them to have been liberals at heart.
Maumoon once repressed democracy in the name of repressing extremism, yet, to win power back he now gladly says he believes in what the extremists believe in.
It proves, Maumoon cares about power, not about reason, or compassion, or for that matter, Islam.
I have no reason to believe Nasheed's motives for espousing liberty are any nobler than winning Western investment and support. But if he pays lip service to the liberal ideals, he makes himself the target of rage when he violates these principles of liberty, as broken hope is more painful than hope never awakened. So he has more personal interest in maintaining reasonable, investment attracting policies than any other leading political figure.
Maaas varah andhulus vegen mi veydenee. What the hell those bearded morons tin they can fool people.They cant twist the facts of history isn't it.I think polpot killed 2 million cambodians because they sheihks failed to live up to their expectations.Hitler killed almost six million Jews because they also failed God ?.Empires have a tendency decline after a peak.It is afact of history.Nobody can prevent it ot derail the physical laws of the world.Allah almighty has prescribed it that way.We are just spectators.What that bearded mullah who was thourughly indoctrined by Mauloona maudhoodhee in an obscure hang out in Pakistan is that he can fool some people some time,but he cant fool all the people all the time.Work against these hypocritic people,the like of them brought the only islamic republic in the Asian hemisphere to its knees and thousands of people loose their lives everyday.Dont let people like Moscow ge Jaleel to prosper in our beloved country
...'we must, for the sake of Allah, love those pious and faithful to Allah, and despise those who are unbelievers...
He is asking me to hate my own Christian family, fucking moron!
..."Even among believers, there must be a difference between the love we have for the righteous and pious, and those who are led astray."
And THATS the part I hate MOST about it! Who the hell are we to judge another persons heart or motives?
Such a stupid, shallow idea of piety.
When we pray to Allah with our heart, earnestly, FROM our heart, our ears become the ears which Allah hears withand... You know the rest of the Hadith.
And ALLAH is the MOST Merciful, it means, our ears become vessel of MERCY< listening out for pain to see what we can do about it, listening, caring. THAT is true piety, MERCY, not a bunch of external things such as robes, turbans, appearances in the Mosque.
Prophet (SAW) said that the Message would not go deeper than the throats of many who profess to believe, behave piously, yet have no real understanding of the Religion and its meaning. This Sheikh is one of those.
An Islamic society living in one piece in its a way of Islam he who try,s to spit or divide and develop misunderstanding among them shall be punish and give them death sentence.(Qur'an)
Does these Mullas from Salaf know what there are doing and what they deserve from Islam "execution" O GOD save us from these faithless Mullas of Maldives.
As I've mentioned this "Sheikh" is talking way out of his depth. Let's take a look at this one:
"Spain, or Andalus, which had an 800 year old Islamic state, an Islamic Caliphate, had Islam wiped out of it in under just 300 years..."
Firstly, Spain or Andalus was an Umayyad Caliphate for a very brief part of history. That gave way to the Caliphate of Cordoba, which was NOT part of the wider Islamic Empire. Cordoba during this time was the centre of learning and culture in the entire world, thanks to its forward looking Muslim rulers.
You have to be a pretty dim and idiotic to draw any parallels between the backward looking and intolerant "sheikhs" of today and those that developed and lived in the Caliphate of Cordoba. I dare say, the two "Muslim" groups are as different as oil and water.
Again, there was NEVER an 800 year old Islamic State in Spain! There were independent Caliphates and Emirates all ruled by arch rivals who would have little to do with each other. Of course, as history tells us, that was their downfall as well.
When Cordoba fell to the Christians, it was the Emir and Emirate of Granada that helped the Christians in their fight to depose their Muslim brother the Caliph of Cordoba.
Our good "sheikh" fails to mention any of these historical facts and casts a very romantic view of a unified 800 year long rule of Spain under a single Islamic Caliphate. That's a downright lie! Ladies and gentleman, go and visit Spain, and see for yourself what remains of Muslim Spain and see how history unfolded over centuries.
To my last post I have to add that in any battle the victor writes the history and decides the fate of those who fell. This is true of Spain, Europe after the Great Wars and even the Maldives.
Is there any sign of the hundreds and thousands of years of Buddhism that was here before Islam? Clearly not. But if we start to dig around, and look beneath the foundations of mosques, we not only see old Buddhist temples, but even sun temples that go back thousands of years.
The same is true of Spain today. If you go around Andalusia and look closely at most prominent and even not so prominent Churches, you can see they were built on top of mosques. The signs are clearly evident and some of the old structures like doorways are in fact left in place. That makes for quite interesting architecture, one you would not see anywhere else in the world.
So, what's my point? My point is that these "sheikhs" who talk out of their depth have a version of history filtered down by a very focussed lens to fit their world view. It's up to all of us, as individuals to discover the truth and not blindly follow the words of a self proclaimed sheikh.
very good dharus this was, in a long long time. If our sheikhs give more lectures like this then actually things will improve. And yes the Sheikh never said anything about MDP. But most of the hardcore atheists who affiliate themselves with MDP cannot digest the truth of what he said.
The most poignant point he made was about secularism and 'laadheenee'. The laadheenee baigandu just jumps up and down when somebody says laadheenee but the same word when said in English, they clap and feel happy. I know secularims is not an exact meaning of laadheenee, but that's as close as it gets in dhivehi.
salaan galaan
I've always had a bone to pick about the term "religious scholar" (Div: Dheenee 'Ilm Veriyaa) that religious conservatives love to bandy about.
By using the label for themselves, these youngling preachers are asserting that they are experts in Shari'ah. However this is far from true.
The public should demand to know from where and in what field these people were educated in and to what level. Also, if they wish to claim that they are academics or expert jurists, then they should have done extensive research and gotten considerable experience in some field of study. Or else they are nothing more than propagandists, preachers and missionaries.
I want to ask the supporters of this young chit of a lad (Adam Shameem) the following questions;
1. In what field was he educated? Does his area of study include Islamic law?
2. Where was he educated? There are several institutions across the world who issue doubtful certifications that are fake or sub-standard.
3. Where has he worked? Did his work involve studying and practicing Islamic Shariah? How long did he work for?
4. Has Shameem done any research? Where is it published? (By the way writings on blogs and personal websites is not published research).
5. And by the way how old is he really? (Age is a factor).
The truth is jurists such as Ahmed Ibn Hanbal and Abu Hanifa had dedicated their lives to the study and development of Islamic law. Recent experts in Shariah including Wahbat Al-Zuhaili and the esteemed justices of the Malaysian Supreme Court as well as their Fiqh Academy have also contributed a lot to the field of Shariah. That is why their reasoned opinions in fields of Islamic law holds weight.
However a guy who talks to people on a hotline is something else entirely - I think they're called male escorts in some areas.
The very fact that these people need an unjustified and meaningless title such as "Sheikh" (which by the way means old man or tribal leader in Arabic) proves that they have nothing else to validate their position in society.
So it's okay for some Muslims to make money from selling pork and alcohol? (Mr. Gasim comes to mind for some reason.) But not okay for others? And by others I'm thinking of local island inhabitants.
I'm not saying local island guest houses should sell alcohol. They do not sell pork or drinks and right now local island tourism is aligned more with Islamic rules than resort tourism.
So please explain to me why local island tourism is more evil than certain Maldivians profiting from selling pork and alcohol to infidels and then using that money to support coalitions with the bearded whack jobs in the AP.
These Mullahs think quoting some historical event make them literate people and putting some funny grab makes them Arabs. Can someone put sense in these Jaahil people that we don’t live in 07th century Arabia neither we had anything to do with Arab conquest during the middle age? We are some fishing folks from Indian subcontinent who have no idea about this Andhlas and have no business with what happened there some centuries before. Why these brainless monkeys dragging us to what Christian Europe and Muslim Arabs went through in the Dark Age and want convert these small tiny sand dunes to 07th century Arabian dessert.
Accidently for good or bad we have been converted to Islam but it does warrant you to call Holly War and start killing some of our brothers who don’t want be called Muslims. The Muslim is simply a word that is applied to our identity, it doesn’t change our blood our flesh that we all share. This is the age of reasoning, and science, you keep your bullshit within you only. The people who are educated like us are not going to listen to your 07th century garbage. All rational thinkers should not allow these brain dead people to corrupt the minds of unfortunate Mass who lack education and bring chaos to this peaceful people who have nothing except the peacefulness in their country.
I did not mean to call him a f**king moron I am sorry for that, but I am just very hurt and confused by the way Islam is used to sanction hatred of non-Muslims like that. I understand hating perpetrators of injustice, but surely there are good and bad in every religion.
The liberals should put forward their response, not attack the Sheikh.
Extremism has 2 forms - liberal extremists (or the libertarians) and religious ones. Each should show where they are instead of name calling.
@Liberal voice on Sat, 21st Sep 2013 9:50 PM
"The liberals should put forward their response, not attack the Sheikh."
I'm not a "liberal". Actually I don't even know what a "liberal" is. Anyway, I've put forward my arguments on what this "sheikh" had to say about history, in particular with regard to the Muslim conquest of Spain and the 800 years of Muslim domination of the Iberian peninsula.
I've shown that the Sheikh doesn't understand much, if anything, about that complex subject. Again, we can reason clearly about history (where relevant data is available) and debate on it. On this other ramblings, there's not much that can be said other than they are just that, i.e. ramblings.
Here's something that should be pointed out very clearly and is something of huge concern. The last guy who ranted about Al-Andhalus is resting at the bottom of the oceans in a watery grave.
Yes, I'm talking about the Al-Qaeda leader Osama-bin-Laden: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/13/1078594616771.html
On numerous occasions he referred to the "tragedy of Al-Andhalus". You can see where people such as this Shameem are drawing inspiration from. Grave dangers lie ahead. The PISCES system, after all, deserves its place here in the Maldives!
ABABS: Love your history lessons about this part of the world, especially because you've actually been there, makes it vivid, graphic, you convey a real feel of the place.
And it's so true, the philosophical Muslim scholars which made that part of the world great were opposed to what they called the Zahiri (literalists) Sheikh Shameem represents. These Muslim philosophers were the ones who taught Western scientists how to stare down our own Religious tyrants.
Sheikh Shameem's people taught that these types of Muslim scholars (Al-Mutazili and Al-Ashari) were to be put to death.
IF Sheikh Shameem's people could have destroyed Al-Andhalus, they would have done so also.
Liberal voice on Sat, 21st Sep 2013 9:50 PM
There is nothing called extremism in Liberty, the more extreme you go the better. Probably religion itself can go to any extreme as long as it remines a personal matter. You can climb mountain to reach Nirvana or spend whole life for Thahajjudu in mosque to go in to heaven or beat the chest to commemorate dead prophets. You can go to any extreme to achieve your personal spiritual goal. When an ideology goes to extreme and it is forced on people as the only way for every human being to live their life, this is problematic extremism and it should be resisted and contained. Who wants another Afghastan in making? Isn’t Las Vegas better than Thalibanistan? At least in Las Vegas you can do anything including your Nirvana and Thahjjudhu or shiva lingam . But In Thalibanistan you can’t even shave your beard, women can’t drive, and cannot go to school or even cannot enjoy the very freedom that men have, even they can’t show their face and can’t do any dress grooming which is natural and important for the mental health of women.
A typical Maldivian mullah speech. Generally includes:
1.Supporting violence towards non-muslims.
2.Falsified history.
3.Severing all relations between non-muslims and Maldivians.
4.Hatred of Jews and Christians, and calls to kill them.
5.Justification of pedophilia, and calling muslims to follow the footsteps of their prophet in marrying children.
6.Hatred against secularism, liberalism and atheism.
7.Calls for the destruction of the west.
8.Pretending to be saints, while these were the same people involved in throwing rocks at Afrasheem and his son, and also sending out retards to kill people who were part of a peaceful protest.
Also just letting this inbred degenerate onto a secret: Atheism is growing, especially in Muslim states and this includes Maldives. There are many young people right now who are openly coming out as Atheists, and the mullahs are really to thank for this. When they shout out to kill innocent people and claim prophets rode flying donkeys to heaven and split oceans, people do start to question their faith. Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc will all be non-existent by a century or two, just like the religions of ancient times.
watch video here http://www.dharuslive.com/1957
Great speech n sensible message. Truth hurts .. 😉
Now compare this Mullahs version to what actually happened in Andalus.
http://youtu.be/QlfQvzh21V4
I believe it is very dangerous to patronize, or to make alliances with or make promises to these Sheikh's to win votes, or power.
It's one thing to break promises to liberals, liberals are normally too - well - "liberal" to avenge broken hope violently.
But if you build and then break the hope of these guys, the rage and vengeance they would unleash would be devastsating. The bitter despair of broken hope creates violent suicidal RAGE in these guys, it only takes a bit of hurt to cause them to interpret the Qur'an the way bin-Laden understood it. They will RISE like a nuclear explosion from the underground! They would become a terrorist organisation, watch out for bombs on resorts.
The little there is left of the very shallow "liberal" Islamic facade they wear to appear a little more mainstream would be removed forever. As the Sheikh above said, he is frightened to speak his real mind. So if these words are him holding back, imagine what he would say if he spoke his real mind!
Of course, they refrain from revealing their true face to fit in with the Governments desire to maintain tourist investment. The Governments always believe that if you embrace them, you hold their arms back from unleashing punches of terror, so to speak. But, does it work? I used to believe it did work, but now, I believe, you just aggregrevate them more by patronising them.
Patronising them over the years has only made them more aggressive.
Look at the threats and the way they are treating MDP Nasheed who gave them more power than Maumoon ever did. They are angry with Nasheed because, they thought that when he embraced them, he they would have the power to deliver harsher Shariah LAW. Yet then, Nasheed spoke out against the death sentence, had some business with some Jewish linked companies (as Maumoon also did)and all of a sudden, he is accused of wanting to blow up a Mosque to build a church there!
THATS what you get for patronising them, for stating you believe in what they believe in, by saying you are similar, for giving them any hope, or power, or friendship, ISLAMIC VENGEANCE! The hope friendship gives them goes to their heads and makes them way more AGGRESSIVE!
It is obvious that no mainstream political contendor can give the Sheikh's their desire for maximum Shariah Law. The Government of the Maldives is too dependant on its liberal IMAGE for security, investment, tourism. Maumoon is delivering the Maldives to DOOM by befriending them and by stating PPM believes in what they believe in.
Reading this article, the comments. All I can see are ignorant twats flailing around with no base or truth to what they say.
You people rely on nothing but stereotypes and yet you claim to be the 'civilized, open minded' people. You have no knowledge about Islam, and yet you go on running your mouths. The Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) married Aisha when she was 9 years of age. That's all you know and all you heard. You know not of the reason behind it nor do you have any information further from the headline. This is how ignorant you people are.
But again, what the heck more can we expect?
You people raise your voice loudest about freedom of speech, yet you can't digest it when someone with opposite beliefs state what they think.
Hypocrisy. Ignorance. Stupidity. Immaturity.
But it's nice to see these qualities among you people. It's exactly what we expect from people like you.
Say whatever you want, say its arab culture or wahhaabism or whatever.. the guy said whats true and right. Haters of islam may win a battle or two but evetually true muslims would win. Live Long!!
If I get a costume, and call myself a Scholar will you nitiwts bow down and follow me? Mohamed (SAW) and his followers lived in the village in Madina with Jews. He traded with Jews and Christians and the idol worshipers. His followers married Jews and Christians. Were they all including our prophet, Laadheenee? I don't remember in any of the Mohamed's sayings to be intolerant of other religions or beliefs. Does this actor know better than him?
As a young Maldivian I want to say that we are fed up of religion. The conspiracy of the government and the religious fiefdom to keep us in chains is over. You can’t fool us with your lies anymore. We want FREEDOM!
you think you can monopolise Islam? Heirs of the prophet? F**k off will you!