Sister! “Bend over backwards and tolerate,” said Dr Bilal Philips, the Canadian ‘Ilmveriya’ of Jamaican origin last Friday afternoon over ‘Atoll Radio’ – the Islamic FM station. He was responding to a woman who called to get advice on how to deal with her husband’s ‘cold’ first wife.
“You know how you would feel when your husband takes another wife,” he counseled. So “scrape at the bottom of the barrel” to get into good terms with her. Though, he added, it is the responsibility of the husband to get her relatives “to calm her down.”
The past week we heard the two converts – Dr Philips and the UK-born Brother Abdulraheem Green raise awareness and make recommendations to the Maldivians. They were brought by the Islamic NGO, ‘Jamiyyathulsalaf’ under the program ‘The Call 2010’ as part of their jihad to establish in Maldives what they consider an Islamic state.
‘Ilmverin’ is a term heard extremely rarely in the past. But now, it is a term that the religious factions commonly use in the Maldives to refer to the bearers of all knowledge, and maintain expert authority.
A Sheikh, a title acquired when a person achieves a first degree in Islamic Studies from an Islamic University, also becomes an Ilmveriya. They suggest that ‘Ilm’ or intellect cannot be limited to one area of knowledge such as economics, medicine or law. But Ilm comprises all knowledge and that can only be derived from Quruan and Hadhith – the foundation of all truths. The Ilmverin understand the total meaning and context of Quruan and Hadith and are therefore the true intellectuals. Thus, the unlimited knowledge of the Ilmverin enables them to inform and advise the public on any area, be it midwifery or state governance, as requested.
The religious factions claim that Maldivian society is “so much out of order”. And in the midst of the social and political challenges there is an immense move by them to bring the Ilmverin to the public’s attention as the saviors of the nation’s future.
The Ilmverin seemingly has the answers for all the social and political illnesses the Maldives face. Hence, it has become “the moral duty” of the religious factions to get the Ilmverin to put the country back on the right path to bring safety and prosperity for the entire population.
So on the Friday program another woman phoned in. This time she went on tearfully saying she cannot deal with her situation when she found out her husband and the father of her children was about to get married to another woman.
“You love him,” Dr Philips encouraged soothingly. “Do you want [in spite of] your love for your husband [for him] to commit a sin… [When it’s in your hands to legalise his relationship]?”
And yet another asked for Dr Philips’s verdict. This time she wanted to know whether in Heaven she would be granted her wish for her husband to love only her.
Dr Philips instantly drew her attention to human nature. And based on his all-encompassing knowledge he replied: “Men in their nature are to have more than one woman whereas the natural desire of a woman is to have one man to raise a family.”
If a certain group in the world argues that what could be regarded as “nature” of human being are only the biological needs such as to eat, to drink, to sleep, to have sex, etc, Dr Philips certainly did not believe so.
So he told the woman: “You have whatever you desire in Paradise.” And even though her husband can wish for any number of women at any time in Heaven, he said her wish will be granted. He assured her that in any case, since there is no such thing as jealousy in Paradise, she would not encounter any problems anyway.
There have were many more opinions and verdicts sought from Dr Philips and Brother Green during their week-long program of lectures and Q/A sessions. And more must be sought by the Maldivian sisters from Dr Philip’s spouse Sister Sara Philips, at the private gathering she held for them on Saturday.
But within the crux of these programs lie three crucial, consistent and calculated messages. While all three messages have a direct relevance to the local state of affairs and the geopolitics of the world, they are delivered in an environment where the space for alternative voice is simply non-existent – a consequence of carefully laid social control methods.
Rule number one says no one should publicly question what an Ilmveriya says – especially a non Ilmveriya.
Rule number two is that no one should entertain an attempt to make a distinction between what an Ilmveriya says, and the Quran and Hadhith.
Rule number three is that any alternative viewpoint that differs from those of the religious factions in Maldives is an attempt to eradicate Islam from the country – so people who comment on what the Ilmverin says, and people who attempt to raise alternative viewpoints, should be immediately stopped.
Further, such people have to be dragged into the public domain as the ignorant and the Anti-Islamists. Or, perhaps they could be presented as agents of Christian missionaries with links to the West. Or if it is necessary they could even be Atheists or Apostates.
And if all that seems too strong, they could also be presented as chain-smoking, coffee-drinking lesbians!
The logic seems to be that all such people deserve defamation, intolerance and violence.
The religious factions have made it clear to the public that to be dubious about what an Ilmveriya says is equivalent to having doubts about Islam. To criticise what an Ilmveriya says is to ridicule Islam. To point out the inconsistencies and the contradictions in what the Ilmveriya says is to create confusion, destroy Islam and, it is claimed, a conscious effort to break up the Islamic solidarity of the nation.
To try and raise an alternative viewpoint is an attempt to establish secularism. And make no mistake! Such attempts are nothing but the biggest, most heinous, crimes ever – to question Islam and Allah’s order.
Lastly, the public should be assured that the Ilmveriya is never wrong, or telling lies. The Ilmveriya is never corrupt and will never manipulate people’s minds to exploit them. The Ilmveriya will never misuse his power on the others’ understanding that the Ilmveriya is always right. So, everybody is expected to listen to the Ilmveriya and gulp the information as truth without even ‘a single drop of water’.
In such an environment the Islamic Ministry that represents the religious political party, the Adhaalath Party and their affiliated lobby group, Jamiyyathul Salaf, have set in their agenda in motion. The immediate target is to implement Islamic Sharia in Maldives, to “Arabise” Maldivian society and to Islamise the Maldivian educational system.
And so Dr Philips brought the Maldivians’ attention to their own Constitution saying: “Make no mistake about what (the Maldivian Constitution) says… the Constitution of Maldives says the country will be ruled by Quran and Sunnah.”
Dr Philips pointed to the necessity of Islamic Sharia. He said that: “Where heads are cut off, and hands are chopped and people are lashed, such societies enjoy peace and stability.”
He picked Saudi Arabia as an example, saying he never needed to keep his front door locked during his twenty-year long stay there. Little did Dr Philips know that in Maldives people never used to lock the front doors of their houses, either. And even now on islands such as Kendu in Baa Atoll, most people still leave their front doors unlocked night and day!
Dr Philips spoke of the weaknesses of democracy and how they contribute to the destruction of societies. He spoke of the flaws of the foundations of democracy – equality, rational empiricism and discussion and consensus and explained what they meant.
He spoke of the danger of secularism and said it “is the religion for democracies”. He said only Islam can claim to be the religion of Eve and Adam. Dr Philips said what Islam has to offer (the world now) is a moral message which is not there in the rest of the world.
The call for Maldivian women to wear the hijab has lately become extremely loud in sermons and media forums delivered by the local sheiks. And Dr Philips meticulously included this second message in all his lectures.
He said Islam elevated and protected the status of women. He warned Maldivian women that “when you remove the hijab, you suffer”. He pointed out that the head scarf is not enough for a Muslim woman because it covers only her head and leaves “her top” and “her bottom” exposed.
He urged Maldivian women to wear the hijab which he says is a loose covering that covers the woman’s private parts. If there are other Ilmverin in this world who disagree that it is compulsory for all Muslim women all over the world to wear the hijab or headscarf, the Maldivians should never hear of them.
The third message came through Dr Philips in his last, but special lecture organised by the private institution The Clique College. Students, teachers and educators were recommended to attend it. In this lecture he called the Maldivians to “revamp the education system so that it falls in line with Islam as enshrined in the Constitution.”
He said Islamisation of the education system is “something which here in the Maldives is or should be on the forefront of the thinking, the discussion, the decisions which have to be made for the future of education.”
He said the education system has to be governed according to the Quran and Sunnah to “produce the ideal Maldivian citizen.”
He said the Western nations have a secularised education in which “morality is completely taken out” and “everything is geared towards materialism.” So, he said, “parents should encourage other parents and approach the government to change” the Maldivian education system into an Islamised one.
Dr Philips gave a detailed description of the teacher, the student, the environment and the materials used in an Islamised education system. He said the outcome of an Islamic education system is a student who is conscious of his/her need to worship Allah, is conscious of his/her goal in life – the Paradise; and is motivated to implement the divine commandments.
He also added that their social responsibility is to provide the needed skills to the society.
“It’s obligatory for every Muslim to seek knowledge”, he said, and identified useful knowledge and useless knowledge for the audience.
He said useful knowledge has an immediate practical use. He urged the audience not to waste time on useless knowledge, and said that sending rocket ships to Mars and getting robots to roam around and dig its soil to find its geological composition was an example of useless knowledge.
He said the goal of knowledge should not be for the sake of knowledge: “What drives people to do such things is their belief that there is no God… and the universe is an accident,” he said.
Dr Philips said that in Riyadh, it was found that the Quran, Islam and Arabic were subjects that the students most hated while they loved other subjects taught by non-Muslims. To avoid such a response and for effective knowledge transfer, he urged to use the KEIA model which stands for ‘Knowledge, Eman, Ikhlas and Amal Salih’.
He gave examples of how to Islamise subjects such as mathematics. He said teachers of Islamic Studies should be qualified in classroom management, child psychology and educational methodology.
Dr Philips finally ended his lecture circuit by offering a way for his audience to pick up from where he left. He reminded them of his online university that offers diploma and degree studies for free or nominal charges. Before he finished he also mentioned that there is an Islamised English-language reading series he has produced for kindergarten kids.
And it remains for us Maldivians now, while our politicians dance to the loudest tunes, to determine whether, when the cultural dynamics finally take shape and the Maldives becomes listed among developing nations – is it going to be the Saudis or the Somalian pirates that we turn to for money and the required knowledge transfer to maintain our economy.
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@dhona
...if u came out of nowhere you will go into nowhere...stop being cynical about those who want to dream that they will go on to a fun place after their death!let dreamers dream....do u think that those who wear bikinis and skimpy clothes worry about a bilal philip?they are secure and happy in there womanising world..this a world of homosexuals and liberal men and women who are enjoying evry bit of their freedom..
a bilal philips can't stop any woman who wants to sleep with a thousand men in naked abandon...stop wasting your energy and enjoy your world while u still have the time,who knows you might hit the dust today itself and rot in your own pit...let the imams dream and think about a paradise that they might not not get&struggle in the way they know to get it..even John Milton wrote about paradise,so whats new,do u hate him for that?...u can go with your permanant arousal into the mud when u die,there your aroused member will rot into the soil..so chill!
@Nashath Rafeeg
And your modus operandi is NO crouching tiger or hidden dragon!
It's very predictable, too.
@nashath shafeeg
electricity,penicillin,internet..is the answer to a man looking for a well,comfortable living,those who discovered these things first thought about their benifits..
who will benefit from researching on the soil on mass?how many such planets will these guys go and search?hundred years ago these enlightened souls declared after so much researching that man will live on the moon in the near future..it still seems a distant impossibility...they are destroying this planet with their innovative research&looking to go elsewhere so that they could destroy that place as well?...truly enlightening
Its not good for a loving wife to let his man commit a sin. Its is always good to allow him to have his second wife.
Its not good for the two loving wives to let their man commit a sin. Its is always good to allow him the third wife.
Its not good for the three loving wives to let their man commit a sin. Its is always good to allow him the forth wife.
Its not good for the four loving wives to let their man commit a sin. Its is always good to allow him the ......??
$^%^ System Error %&$^ Justifications will now crash... Please restart the Justification System.
@Heck
I have few questions for you. Why do you have to hate everything other than Islam? Does the Quran commands you to read everything non-Muslims write? And does it command you to argue about them?
@Aniya
Thank for you for trying.
@Rashia
You are to blame for the destruction of this planet as much as anyone else.
Electricity is made for your comfort. If you didn't want, no one would have built all those power plants that produce all these pollutants. I'm sure you do your contribution to this.
Plastic bags litter our streets. Why don't you oppose to that like you did for the alcohol ban?
Your awesome Saudi is supplying all the oil the world needs for its destruction. I don't see them complaining about it.
So don't talk as if you are not contributing to this. This problem was created by man kind, not by any religion.
yea blood lovers calling for spilling there own blood inspiration by osama bin ladhen is a coward too first he resided in somalia when real war came there he fled and then Afghanistan when american soldiers led foot there he fled from there too and probably enjoin 12 wives and couple of women slaves on a beach in bahamas making extreist he was Martyr or is hiding in bora bora mountains. 🙂
@Rashia
What simple minded uneducated moronic religious zealots like you does not seem to grasp is that the whole point of scientific research is to find what is out their. The point of going to other planets and searching for life is that investing in these grand gestures have a massive trickle down effect where many technologies that make these endeavor possible have a direct effect to our lives. Here is a small list of things pointless research from space age has brought to you:
Cordless Power Tools and Appliances
Smoke Detector
Clean Water for the Home
Home Insulation
Laser Heart Surgery
Body Imaging
New Arms and Legs
Infrared Thermometer
Light emitting diodes (LED)
Composite Forceps
Pill-Sized Transmitter
Chromosome Analysis
Digital Mammography
Camera on a Chip
Crop Management from Orbit
Crop Dusters Improve Their Aim
Firefighter Breathing System
Powerful Jaws for Rescue Tools
Helmet Padding
Golfball Aerodynamics
Lightning Protection
Windshear Prediction
Collision Avoidance
simple truth of the matter is statistically speaking you will not be alive if not for all the scientific progress. With out modern medicine chances you surviving till the age of 20 is less that 1/5 and assuming by your name you are female chances of you dying while giving birth is 1/3. With out modern innovation of genetic engineering half of the world population will stave to death. If you cut your self and catch an infection kiss your tushie goodbye.
And while at the subject of pointless research the from where do you think that shaped charges, mobile detonators, bullets, RPG's all came from. I will give you a hint its not from the flea bearded mullahs
@heck
Thank you for making my point. I am amazed that some one with so little intellect is able to operate a computer which by the way was invented by a atheistic homosexual Allen Turing. Bet you feel dirty know dont ya ?
DITTO! Abdulla Naeem! Well said!
Shafeenaz: thank you.
Aniya: BRAVO!
" there is no room here in the Maldives for atheists,liberals,any other religion and secular democracy.We are ready to spill our blood to protect our beloved religion."
a) Liberalism and Secularism are not religions, dum dum.
b) We do not doubt your eagerness to spill blood - whether yours or anyone else's - but really. How about first trying to engage in some civilized discourse?
Any moron can throw a punch and 'spill blood' (and they do, all the time) but very, very few people are actually capable of defending their positions rationally.
And secularists believe your position is rationally indefensible.
@Rashia
What simple minded uneducated moronic religious zealots like you does not seem to grasp is that the whole point of scientific research is to find what is out their. The point of going to other planets and searching for life is that investing in these grand gestures have a massive trickle down effect where many technologies that make these endeavor possible have a direct effect to our lives. Here is a small list of things pointless research from space age has brought to you:
Cordless Power Tools and Appliances
Smoke Detector
Clean Water for the Home
Home Insulation
Laser Heart Surgery
Body Imaging
New Arms and Legs
Infrared Thermometer
Light emitting diodes (LED)
Composite Forceps
Pill-Sized Transmitter
Chromosome Analysis
Digital Mammography
Camera on a Chip
Crop Management from Orbit
Crop Dusters Improve Their Aim
Firefighter Breathing System
Powerful Jaws for Rescue Tools
Helmet Padding
Golfball Aerodynamics
Lightning Protection
Windshear Prediction
Collision Avoidance
simple truth of the matter is statistically speaking you will not be alive if not for all the scientific progress. With out modern medicine chances you surviving till the age of 20 is less that 1/5 and assuming by your name you are female chances of you dying while giving birth is 1/3. With out modern innovation of genetic engineering half of the world population will stave to death. If you cut your self and catch an infection kiss your tushie goodbye.
And while at the subject of pointless research the from where do you think that shaped charges, mobile detonators, bullets, RPG's all came from. I will give you a hint its not from the flea bearded mullahs
@heck
Thank you for making my point. I am amazed that some one with so little intellect is able to operate a computer which by the way was invented by a atheistic homosexual Allen Turing. Bet you feel dirty now dont ya ?
I believe in everyones right to believe in whatever they want to believe.
These wahhabi schmucks can believe whatever they like - so long as they can keep it to themselves. Unfortunately, these idiots have it in their puny brains that they have to force down their stupid beliefs on to others.
Why can't they just go to Saudi Arabia and not come back ....
@No Questions
Why are you complaining about allowance of four wives in Islam for men?
Suppose a contagious disease killed 80 percent of Maldivian population and 50 percent of world population - then what?
Do you think giving equal rights to women in marriage to have four husbands is going to solve the declining population problem?! Let's see now. She would be running to all four men and getting seed from each and everyone? For what? Hmmmm? It would be rather absurd, isn't it?
That is why we say Islam is for all ages and all places - God is not shortsighted like you!
There are reasons for Halal and Haram. You just have to use your brain instead of acting like a bigot.
I don't think you would go against four wives for men - in such a scenario? Or would you? I won't be surprised if the government issued SUBSIDY to all eligible men to help raise the population by marrying for wives if we ever had such a drastic decline in population. Oh! C'mon now, DON'T you balk at me like that! There are countries in the world that are trying to raise their population by hook or crook!
And besides, it's just an allowance in Islam. It is not mandatory for every man to marry four wives. Get a life man, instead of lying in ambush to kill Islam. Islam is forever! You can't kill Islam. Booo! Hoooo!
Did you know? Islam is the solution for humanity. Ciao!
@cheshire cat
Alice in Wonderland? Wake up!
@Aicha
Guts? Aniya?
What did SHE do THAT great? There are many Thaslima Nasreens in the world, by the way!
Or did you mean fish guts? We see those guts in the fish market bins every other day!
It's amazing how Bilal Phillips can make totalising statements about human nature (as in his statement that it is in men's nature to be promiscuous while women are domesticated beings content with one partner). If there's one thing I know, it is that we cannot quantify and predict the human lifeworld in the same manner that we do the natural world. (i.e. studying human nature is not the same as studying physics). There are things about human nature that we cannot make generalisations about. (Love, hate, anger, madness being some of these.) Simply, human is constantly changing, and further more, our individual nature differs from one another based on historical and social circumstances. (A woman in Saudi Arabia might be happy to have one man, a woman in Nepal is allowed to have more than one man, a woman in the Western world probably doesn't even care much for the institution of marriage). Surely, how can such a statement about nature, such as Phillips', apply to all these people.
@heck..
My argument is when a wife allows the second wife for the simple reason that her husband will fornicate and commit a sin "Why limit to four" Is it fixed in our DNA that men will have no more sexual desire after accumulating 4 wives... if that is the case why is our friend Buruma Qasim doing a "FIFO" with his wives.....
And if there is a sudden population decrease of 50% in the world and 80% in Maldives; are you suggesting that only men will die?...
This was when only "men" fought the wars... Now women fight the wars too..
If you tell us this is the word of God and there is no justification to it, fine... But the justification given by the Business Tycoon who runs this online University just sucks... And I believe he is a suspect of 9/11 terror attack too...
@yaamyn
Spilling blood at weddings, funerals and killing innocent kids and call them stray bombs or collateral damage, or sending suicide bombers. What's the difference?
You don't particularly seem to be worried about violence or spilling of blood, but I think you want to sanction the spilling of Muslims blood as legitimate?
I see westerners going to other people's land and spilling blood on the pretext of war on terror all the time! What do you think is spilt there? Milk?
Racism is a disease of the mind, my dear, get treatment before you actually kill a Muslim out of blind fury!
It's funny when you atheists shout all the time calling people who disagree with you as being full of hate and unable to reason.
What nonsense! What is there to reason in atheist philosophy? You say there is no creator and there is no afterlife. We say there is a CREATOR and there is afterlife.
I SAY THAT EVEN YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD EXISTS. NOW, BECAUSE ATHEISTS ARE BABIES IT IS THE PARENT WHO HAS TO DECIPHER WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY. I SAY, WHAT YOU TODDLER IS TRYING TO SAY, IS THAT YOU REJECT THE VARIOUS FORMS OF GOD, BECAUSE YOU KNOW FROM THE BOTTOM OF YOUR HEART THAT THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE GOD. That's okay. Oochie koochie! (pinches your cheek), I believe you! There is only one God and not many Gods! There now, you belive that God exists, now go ask nana to change your diapers!
@Nashath Rafeeg
Where is the condom in your list?
I don't think Islam forbids material wealth, but only so much so that it does not deflect you from the right path. Even before the invention of those gadgets man was able to live past hundred years of age! Yes. It has increased man's greed to live for millenia or even turn immortal.
The prophet (PBUH) said:
“The children of Adam will definitely be getting old but two things in him that will be always young, his hope and his love of wealth.”
Trade and business are sanctioned in Islam, but these activities have been specifically mentioned by God as deluders of man from the remembrances of God.
You know what? Some people think that if Izzy and Ferdy had not expelled Jews and Muslims from Spain they would have been the first to land on the moon! So I think western awakening started from there but without sufficient spiritual guidance, they have been caught by the deception of wealth and their own desire and greediness has become their (and your) new God!
Now, what good is that after all?
@nashath rafeeg
these scientists did not discover those things specifically bearing in mind who will enjoy these light emmiting diodes,just as God did not plan who will enjoy the fruits,the flowers,the rivers,the sea and the lands...so why are are you upto defending the non-flea bearded scientists?
did anyone put a gun on the non-flea bearded scientist to make a gadget for them?no..they made the gadgets just because they were out to discover something out of their own curiosity and fool people like you! and by the way is your hatred for the faithful and religious people so enormous that you even resent them enjoying and paying for something that they have the right to as much as you do?
or did the non flea bearded scientist make these things with especially you in mind?you sound as if he did all these discoveries just for you...the way you are defending these diodes and tranmitters and aerodynamic stuff among other things..why dont you go about looking at the things which are far better than these miniscule devices? lets praise the scientist who created the sun..which is the only source that help your non flea bearded scientist even come close to getting to their discovery..i'd rather stick to admiring the universe than these nonflea bearded morons who created these things which i dont have any need for..come to think of it,if these things were not there who would use them..lol
What is interesting about religious Ilmverin is that they do not truely know nothing new. It must always be of knowledge someone before him knew. There cannot be anything new in religion. So in my books, they are the least useful of real Ilmverin. All these lectures and sermons from Dr Philips and Green, Does Sheik Shaheem know all of it...? Answer yes. So what makes these two foreigners so special...? None of these Ilmverin could claim to know more about the other - now I would like to hear them make that claim...
Dr Majeed and Islamic Affairs Ministry are failing in their duty. They must first do a jihad against computers, mobile phones all invented by either Jews, or those SHIRK Christians or homosexual atheists and manufactured by atheist Chinese.
Allah please forgive me, I have to post this by using windows words designed by that SHIRK BIll Gates!
@No Questions;
"My argument is when a wife allows the second wife for the simple reason that her husband will fornicate and commit a sin “Why limit to four” Is it fixed in our DNA that men will have no more sexual desire after accumulating 4 wives… if that is the case why is our friend Buruma Qasim doing a “FIFO” with his wives….."
I dont think you know what is going around the world. Go to statistics and check yourself.
Now i would like to ask from you how many more women are there in USA, Caneda, UK, Maldives, Russia and most of the countries accept a few like India. And what solution can you give to those unfortunae women....
You dont seem to use your logic. God is the Knower of all things.
heck:
Congratulations.
You officially make no sense at all.
Did your counter-argument to yaamyn really just consist of calling him a "racist" "atheist", and on top of that, a baby who needs to change his diaper?
We aren't 5 years old anymore.
What are you trying to prove?
Do you know that accusing someone of being something they are not in Islam is a serious crime?
Do you know that just because our views aren't as extreme as yours, it doesn't automatically make us enemies of Islam?
Well I guess it does make us enemies of YOUR Islam.
YOUR Islam is not the only Islam.
YOU PEOPLE are responsible for breaking up the harmony of the Maldives.
Moderates/liberals, whatever label you want to call us, do not mind what you believe.
It's when you try to FORCE us to believe that YOUR version is the ONLY version that is right is when you're crossing the line.
Heck, you and your attitude is an INSULT to the prophet and the religion of Islam.
You should be ashamed.
and finally why are you spewing venom against islam?
are you deprived of anything that you are doing because of islam?some men are freely living with one wife while going around having extramarital affairs..and then some are practicing sodomy like sodom itself practised it..as for the women, some are freely living their lesbian lives and some freely bedding many men at a time...all this while you are enjoying the non-flea bearded discoverer's amazing gadgets...secularists have paved the way for an enjoyable world...enjoy in your naked abandon,let not the flea-bearded islamic preachers spoil your fun when they keep on with their chronic banter...be not guilty&don't be so affected by it...you are free,free,free....enjoy while your lives last(which ofcourse has a small span thanks to environmental pollution, a sacrifice to produce the jolly good gadgets!)
..and no don't be scared,it's not the flea bearded preacher who decides what will happen when the most precious human body would decay in the soil,burn in the fire or rot in the sea...enjoy the secular world!why is a piece of cloth and a flea bearded preacher a threat to your freedom!!!! LOL
why are they feeling the guilt when
@ heck
@Dhona
"I thought in Islam chopping off the hand was for stealing. So which western value are you lobbying for to let convicted thieves walk away free? I don’t think it’s that free even in western society!"
No, generally no country sets criminals free!!! which is general knowledge, i was referring to harsh punishments. for example: cutting hands is not the right thing to do when we can put the criminal in jail away from the society for years.
"So which western value are you lobbying for to let your wife sleep over with your best friend to bond relations?! Is this the type of respect you are lobbying for women?"
woman who disagrees marrying men who are already married are not people who sleep with their best friends to bond relationships. you should know you sound very stupid here! respecting women means much more and i don't think you have a hint of what it is..hehe
"Western society only respects catwalk girls not Susan Boyles unless she has a makeover, okay? Wake up!
Once they cover up their figure they are worthless objects! There is no real respect there. They are used as tools to sell products like lubricants!"
i think what you have is hate for everything that you cant be or you cant have. i am not a fan of western society but i think in a few days your gonna hate your self too if you keep talking like that. my advice you didn't build the western society... let them live their way. don't look at their uncovered bodies.. go pray and find peace! because if you don't find a peace of mind! sharia,western society values are just parts of influences, but what aniya pointed out in article has nothing to do with western society, it only shows how one mans views could be so dirty!
i think you should read the article again.
"So which western value are you lobbying for claiming to educate your children? Evolution or secularism? Muslims were running after your much enlightened education as long as they thought western education was not secular. But once western education system got contaminated with evolution theory claiming man and monkey shared the same ancestors, then Muslims stopped,looked back and saw the driving force behind western education. I would say that is where Muslims got scared of your education and actually over-reacted. They should have kept their calm and followed the Prophet’s (PBUH) advise “Seek knowledge even in China”
first of all we are talking about education which teaches theories of religion to theories of science and that includes subjects of secularism, evolution, islam religion etc. we want to give as much as education to our children so when they grow up they will decide for them selves what they want to believe in.
Muslims get scared because they are insecure and sissy, Muslims think fear is the answer for everything but fear iself cannot the answer to everything! after all fear is a bad feeling.
"Western society has become workaholic – just for the money! No money – no honey!
And look where all these knowledge has has led us – global warming! Look at what the damn smart civil engineers who were educated from the West were slowly doing all these years! Slowly dynamiting our reefs which Allah had given us as protection. Even ANNI is at odds with western nations for drowning Maldives in the very near future. I bet ANNI has his Mars suit ready by now. Have you? Transport minister has gone on record saying that the conventional Maldivians ‘bandharu’ like a rectangular swimming pool is no good. That we should opt for natural ‘bandharu’? Infact there is a campaign going on to put all the policemen back on bicycles! At this rate how can you rule out the much islamic vehicle ‘jamalu’ which has no significant carbon emmissions? Who knows he might not call upon Maldivians to go back to good old “han’das” or ‘athiri’ for toilet!? Where are we headed? To good old days? The purpose of western education is itself in doubt! Why? Because in all these endeavours one basic thing was lacking. CREATOR.
well dear.. you really need to throw all the hate away. even if the western history states out the technology and everything was their creation it was not. there are things that were created by other civilizations too. for that you need to learn more about history.
and about carbon emissions, According to Quran and Mohamed your prophet, it clearly states that what ever was created by Allah has an end. meanwhile in a place like male/islands, where you can walk anywhere with in 20 minutes you don't need speedy vehicles. its not only western society polluting the ocean, it is us too riding our fuel boats. our poo goes to ocean too but its not polluting because our poo is natural and it can dissolve into the ocean and do ocean no harm and give rich food to fishes. believing that something good is good or a process doesn't make them a believer in evolution or god. it simply is heart warming knowledge! and i think you need it.
humans cannot fight the nature's process of evolving, thats because it will go on and you will die..hehe no matter how sad it sounds to you its not bad at all. eventually every life is not eternal.
"We are on the verge of reaching a point of no return because of man’s greed! So naturally man will want to find a new home be it MARS or MOON!
So I think Aniya should start a campaign to find what type of dresses Martian girls wear! If they wore the hijab, she need not waste her time trying to secularise this tiny country anymore.
According to scientists Maldivians will be nude anyway in 50 to 100 years.
So Aniya might as well grab herself a jet pack and zoooooooom off to MARS on mission impossible, but I strongly suspect she might change course to VENUS instead!"
i would say the above is gibberish or garbage talk... useless words put together and doesn't point out any good or relevant information.
so once again my advice to you... talk about things that you know about. when you talk about things that you don't know about it doesn't only make you sound stupid but also somewhat emotionally distressed.
@ rashia
@dhona
…if u came out of nowhere you will go into nowhere…
well basically i know where i came from so i know where i am going..hehehe
stop being cynical about those who want to dream that they will go on to a fun place after their death!let dreamers dream….do u think that those who wear bikinis and skimpy clothes worry about a bilal philip?
stop being cynical about those who want to dream with their bikini's on in the beach naked down their... its their own business.
they are secure and happy in there womanizing world..this a world of homosexuals and liberal men and women who are enjoying every bit of their freedom..
??? sex sex sex ??? i dont think homosexuals and liberal men and women who are enjoying every bit of their freedom is only thinking about sex. some enjoy playing music, while others enjoy painting real pictures to painting dreams, or some enjoy being politicians, engineers etc etc ... but the people who think about sex only keeps talking about sex... for instance...YOU!!!
"a bilal philips can’t stop any woman who wants to sleep with a thousand men in naked abandon…stop wasting your energy and enjoy your world while u still have the time,who knows you might hit the dust today itself and rot in your own pit…let the imams dream and think about a paradise that they might not not get&struggle in the way they know to get it..even John Milton wrote about paradise,so whats new,do u hate him for that?…u can go with your permanent arousal into the mud when u die,there your aroused member will rot into the soil..so chill!"
hahaha... r u kidding me. i dont care if anyone wants to sleep with thousands of women too.. i dont give a damn... but the problem is when those thousands of men are claiming that they want to have sex with lots of women and they want to do it without giving a woman her rights to decide whether she wants or does not want to have sex with her... now that where it pisses me off darling. i don't want to share my man... now that's my right. its not for some looser sex addicts to decide whether or whether not my rights should be ripped of me. and what the hell is wrong with you... sex sex sex is all you can think off.
we call for no violence no cutting ahnds of people... you call for sex sex sex!!!
we call out for people don't let your zakai that goes to poor to be spend on some preacher... you say sex sex sex!!!
what does it make you.... definitely a person who has PGAD.
we invite our friends home (boys and girls) we cook and we eat... we have good discussions and say bye bye and everyone goes home...
but in your mind.. we are having sex... we are eating sex... we are talking sex... we are doing sex...sex sex sex!!!
Now you come and tell me sex sex sex or you no no paradise...!!! well dear i don't know where your gonna end up... but i certainly know that i will not rot in hell just because you want to. i know it will be hard for you to accept the truth about me.. but still i will not rot in hell and thats been decided.. allah already told me that!! bohoo to you.
tell your imam not to forget that 70 hooraleens are supposed to a be a part of heaven.... not a part of the earth life!!
tell you bilal that i certainly dont care about him, but coming to my homeland and preaching people to cut off others hand and talking about harsh punishments... yeah then i care. you think wearing 5 ft black cloth will represent someones purity... woman i ve seen more people who wear them and end up having sex with thousands of men while married to a gay man who puts on his 5ft black cloth to go have sex with another man. crime always happen in daylight and it the dark, putting a black cloth upon it doesn't make in invisible because this is not the harry potters invisible cloth!! hehehe
and once again... you can punch your heart with a stapler but i and people like me are not going to rot in hell! Vara dhera vey dhoo.. dhen rolaa geyga ekani ovegen... rangalhuvaaneh. dream about sex as you always do it will help you.
oh one more thing next time when you reply me... try not saying anything about sex or any topic which eventually ends in sex... just to see if you can do that...
come up with a more relevant argument.. something like from the 21st century science, law, history...perhaps... you get me right!!!???? not about sexual history.. sexual law... or sexual science your blah blah sex sex sex stuff. it will surely help your PGAD!!
@ Rashia...
If Bilal Philips can't stop a woman from sleeping with an 1000 men...why the heck is he here? His words of wisdom have no effect on women?
Thank you Aniya! Please bring it on! These people need their eyes opened.
I see some of you would really like to say a lot in opposition huh. Why not try a comment piece like Aniya does? But no, you have no guts and therefore no glory. We have enjoyed Islam and LIFE in this country for hundreds of years and we never needed some converts coming and preaching their ways of life to us. Why now? Let us rest, and I am sure Aniya will too. Why is it so hard for some of you to tolerate it when Aniya says something but Bilaal Phillips can go around talking about a man taking four wives OR ELSE COMMITTING A SIN - by having extra-marital sex? - AND GET THE WIFE TO PREVENT IT? Why not castrate the man? That will prevent it for good.
if human history was dictated by Dr Bilal, i do not think he would have been able to make this lavish visits to maldives and other countries and enjoy the modern technology: airplane, electricity, radio, micro phone, speakers etc just to make few.
NO BODY sat down to invent a new technology and you can't. ALL new knowlegde and technology are results of scientific curiosity and seeking to understand the world around us. PLUS the knowledge of humanity is a collective thing. everyone piling up on. for eg, theory of relativity can not solely be credit to einstein. its a long history beginnig from newton etc and there new knowledge added today to this theory, (althought the fundamental basis remain the same). James, maxwell, Mihcael Farraday and all others did not think of modern electricy or radio techonology when he first discovered electromagnatism.
@ someone who was referring to BP oil spill and space programm, i think that person has confused much about space programm and moneytary economy.
@dhona
o so you boys and girls should stop worrying about the preacher who talks,just as you boys and girls sit and discuss music and say bye and go home..let the preacher who preach speak and go home,do u stop the priest who speaks in a church and goes home,he also speaks of heaven,hell and the hereafter,he also speaks of paradise and say hallelujahs to their chosen religion.
do u cry foul when their women are hiding behind the nun's garb and their priests are having your so called PGAD?no?and when they are talking about hellfire and speaking about the apple which was eaten by Eve, who was dropped on earth to sin because of her carnal desires?u dont cry foul?so its not only the religious muslim whose mind is full of sex..u mean anyone who is religious have sex on their mind,while you sit with all your girlfriends and boyfriends and discuss world peace and human development!!hehe
ok,u who is living in perfection.Stop worrying about these preachers then!No one is asking you to share their suvaruge with the hooraleens.No compulsion ,it's ur choice.why is it eating into u so much when a man marries another woman?No one puts a gun on another woman's head to go ahead and marry someone else's husband,don't they know to say a simple"NO?" hehe
fact of the matter ,Maldivian women love to snatch away another woman's husband..likewise for men!speaking here about the hijab and the extra wives,therein lies the reason why sex is the topic here because in Maldives men marry twice/thrice etc only for the sex...not to look after a helpless woman and to take care of her as in the olden days when most women did not earn their own living and who needed someone to support them.
When u see the ratio of men to women in the Maldives,to about every 3 women there is one man...a woman cannot live her life without a man's support,and someone who would be there for her all her life,if not she lives a lonely life,whether she supports herself with her earnings or not ...in any society an unmarried woman leads a lonely life,she yearns for a support system...it is not about sex you thick headed people...and the hijab is also not about sex..it is about modesty,what is wrong if a woman chooses to cover her body with a full garment,is it so wrong that she doesnt choose to wear a figure hugging garb or chooses not to display her flesh..its not only the mulla's who choose their women to cover themselves modestly,its a chosen form of dressing by many women in some cultures be it hindu,christian or jews...stop hating the preachers,they too have freedom of expression...it is for everyone to speak their minds in this free world.
@ e(H!)ough
Cough! Cough!
Did you ask "Why is it so hard for some of you to tolerate it when Aniya says something?"
Something?! C'mon...she issues FATWAS with NO LICENCE, NO CREDIBILITY and NO HIJAB. Therefore she is a fraud.
That's WHY!
@e(H!)ough
Cough! Cough!
Did you ask "Why not castrate the man?"
Are you sure you would sit there if your old man was castrated?
All Maldivians I advice you to wake up & realise the twin evils of 'WAHHABISM' & 'SECULARISM' that have joined hands & deluded us in to thinking they are at odds & are competing for the hearts & minds of our dear citizens we were good Muslims for 900 years until these ideologies rampaged our nation. Both of these came during the era of the 30 yrs Dictatorship of Maumoon, he may not have intended but it was the result of his policies later on taken up & implimented to this day under two systems are both of the NWO (New World Order) Secularim has destroyed our Islamic culture traditions & cohesive unity of our community while WAHHABISM is nothing but a 'secularised; version of Islam. Bilal & Green aren't scholars by any traditional Islamic standards at all. Bilal might claim some credit to his yeras in Saudi learning the faith of the ruling family of Saud who were responsible in collaboration with the British in destroying the Islamic Ottoman State. The 'imposter' state of the Wahhabis will crumble with the arrival of Imam Az Zamaan -Imam Mahdi (ajalaallah Ta'laa- may Allah hasten his appearence) so will the dajjalic secular order & both ideologies its adherents & followers will face the justice of allah s.w.t.
@dhona
Did you say this?
"i was referring to harsh punishments. for example: cutting hands is not the right thing to do(!) when we can put the criminal in jail(!) away from the society for years"
REALLY? IS THERE ANY MORE ROOM IN JAIL AND ANY MORE BUDGET LEFT??!
BOW DOWN YOUR HEAD and let me crown you moron of the year! Cheers!
@dhona
Did you say this?
"..we invite our friends home (boys and girls) we cook and we eat… we have good discussions and say bye bye and everyone goes HOME…"
REALLY? HOME..IN TRIVANDRUM OUTSIDE A DIRTY CLANDESTINE CLINIC and is there a big queue and dead foetuses?
BOW DOWN YOUR HEAD and let me crown you moron of the decade! Bravo!
@ dhona
Did you say this?
"..you think wearing 5 ft black cloth will represent someones purity… woman i ve seen more people who wear them and end up having sex with thousands of men while married to a gay man who puts on his 5ft black cloth to go have sex with another man."
REALL?? THE GAY MAN HERE? IS THAT YOU? And the woman who goes out in her 5ft black cloth - your wife? Man! She is clever. Does she have multiple orgasm going around and doing it with THOUSANDS of men!!! I am jealous now. You have such a "wonderful" nymph right next to you and you don't even get TEMPTED??!! Yes! You must be GAY!
BOW DOWN YOUR HEAD and let me crown you of the century!! Shame on you!
@ dhona
Did you say this?
"..come up with a more relevant argument.. something like from the 21st century science, law, history…perhaps… you get me right!!!???? not about sexual history..!!"
REALLY? SOMETHING MORE RELEVANT?
Lets see...something more relveant.. to a person whose wife goes around and has sex with thousands of men..because he is gay..OK! Got it! Here it is! Are you ready?
WEAR A PRIESTS DRESS and start baptizing little kids - little bit of history,science,law and even biology in there. They are being brought into the lime light slowly, one after the other? Just be patient!
And in doing so, BOW DOWN YOUR HEAD and let deduct 99.99 points from your IQ for failing to see the sarcasam!
YOU ARE GREAT - YOU REALLY BELONG TO THE 21st CENTURY (BC!)
Cheerio!
@ heck:
" If your stature were an illness, it seems that the Centipede dispenses medicine to make you well."
hehe 😀
@ Rashia: Women are not helpless and don't need men to marry them for that reason. a marriage is the coming together of two lives, for heavens sake!
and yes, these are not just women we talk of. men take GIRLS as second, third or fourth wives, and 9 or 11 year olds HAVE NO SAY IN IT! wake up woman! It could be your daughter next.
it is not about snatching anyone's wife or husband, it is about being human and wanting as a human being too. women would like to be wanted, loved and desired, and they love and desire in return. sex is not just for religious people or men! hehehehe
@ Heck: you think zakir naik's wife or son had a license to preach??? Aniya is a much more credible source, thank you. and yes, i would rather castrate my old man than spare him of his cravings by arranging a second wife for him. anyday!
@ heck...
LOL!!!!!!
i am a woman dear darling! i think your twisted.. you really need therapy. i am happily married and one man is enough for me as one me is enough for my husband... who is not a gay habee FYI!! i know you really want to make sense.. but you dont!
also whats with travindrum..HAHAHAHAHAH ;D!!! it funny you think your sarcastic!!! are you???? hahahahaha...
i think you just told us your whole life story dear!!! bring it on... your subconscious speaks so clearly to you... you should read what you have written and really think about it! put it all out there.. tell what your wife does to you and tell what you are. that will only help you find peace!!!
@ Raashia
i told you a more relevant argument with out the word "SEX".. you failed dear. truth is you just cant get it out of your head!
i don't think i am even going to enjoy mocking you because you sound naive and very stupid to me, and i also think you have not read a bit of what i have written. if you cant listen to others don't try to advice others!
this is the result of seeking knowledge just for the sake of knowledge:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dk-matai/japan-takes-lead-in-wirel_b_610344.html
@enough
(cough gone)
Zakir Naik is an Islamic daaee and I think he is training his wife and son on that field. What's wrong with that?
Insha Allah - they will get many converts to Islam like Zakir Naik in future.
Ehem! Now, Aniya. Which religion does she preach? In Maldives you are only allowed to preach Islam as a religion.
She often writes against the spirit of Islam like ruling out the hijab for women and going out against the Prophet's (PBUH) sunnah, like mocking at the Islamic beard for men. Her writings are supportive towards same-sex marriage and indicative of its introduction in Maldives.
SO HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY HER GUT (fish gut!) AS BEING MORE CREDIBLE SOURCE?
If you stick to her SOURCE, Islam would have by now been scraped in a "thagari" like a coconut, wringed dry and the remains thrown away to the chickens to be pecked as food which later get pooped in scoops!
How can she spread the beautiful message of Islam and get new converts like that? Hmmmmmmmmm?
I think she would be better off, if she props herself up on a field and do the job of a SCARECROW instead of doing the job of a (ISLAMIC!?) preacher! Period.
P.S; You seem a little dumb so let me tell you once again. If your mom had castrated her old man (your Pappa!) - do you think YOU would be sitting there??!
By the way some women INDEED don't NEED men to support them. It's nothing new. Are you one of them?
@dhona
LOL????
HAHAHAHAHAH?
hahahahaha…???
What's that glass shattering noise? Is that your poor HEART?
Really, it's okay to laugh hysterically. Some people laugh when they are sad and heart broken. I know you are a really hurt MAN! It's best for you to pretend to be a woman now! My condolences. RIP!
I just have to say LOL at all these wahhabees coming here, trying to justify their saying of "wahhabism is the only true islam". Again, LOL!
@dhona
I re-read through all your posts and YES you could be right! There are indications in your posts that you could be a woman.
But please try to sound real next time..I AM REALLY, GENUINELY SORRY I have mistaken you for a man! But you should try to make sense of what you write next time...Here are a few points that confused me..
Your post @ 12:34PM "whether she wants or does not want to have sex with her…" ??? Were you talking about lesbians sex, then?
You did not object in your counter argument to Rashia that you did not have a MEMBER to rot...Listen to what Rashia said to you...
"u can go with your permanent arousal into the mud when u die,there your aroused member will rot into the soil..so chill!"
But I found these in your comments which sort of confirm that you are not a man. Your post at 12:34 "i don’t want to share my man…"
It's all your FAULT. You did not sound or dress female enough to be recognized!
BUT STILL - YOUR CHANGE OF SEX WON'T CHANGE MY ARGUMENTS IN DEFENCE OF ISLAM. THEY ALL HOLD! I AM NOT TAKING THEM BACK. BUT APOLOGISE TO YOU FOR MISTAKING YOU FOR A MAN!
BUT I WONDER HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW WOMEN WHO TOOK THOUSANDS OF MEN UNLESS YOU ARE ONE OF THEM??? (A PROSTITUTE??). AND ANOTHER QUESTION HOW DO YOU KNOW THERE ARE FLEA-INFECTED BEARDS IF YOU DID NOT LIVE WITH ONE, UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL WITH A GAY HAABEE OR YOUR HUSBAND?? YOU HAVE TO SEE A BEARD REALLY CLOSE TO SEE ALL THE FLEAS IN IT, IF AT ALL THERE ARE ANY FLEAS IN A BEARD!
Immediately you might ask how I came to know there are people queueing up for abortion in Trivandrum. It's a well known SECRET in Maldives for a long time (Ban'du dhovun). Besides read most commented article in Minivan News at the right hand side of the page. "Abortion in the Maldives: the untold story"
Ok.. Here are some stats for you Polygamists to ponder.
There are over 6 billion people living in this world. UN stats says that Male to Female ratio is almost equal. Refer link below,
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_there_more_women_in_the_world_than_men
So if there are 6 billion, 3 billion would be women. And if every 4 women marries 1 man there would enough women for only 750 million men...
That leaves 2.25 Billion men with no woman left in this world to marry.
SO. Explain to me what on earth do you polygamists do to these men.
1. Castrate them?
2. Allow them to sin with married women making one an Adulterer (woman) punishable by death and the other punishable by lashing.This would reduce the head count of women further and drastically.
3. Allow them to sin by going gay?
5. Kill them with suicide bombs?
4. Or there is another solution that I can't put my finger on as I am not an "Ilmveriya".
@No Questions
(Pulling your ear off!) How many times
do I have to tell you ; polygamy in Islam is neither mandatory, nor encouraged, but merely permitted!
"..then (marry) only one…" (Qur’an 4:3)