The Ministry of Islamic Affairs said draft regulations under the Religious Unity Act will incorporate recommendations by Jamiyathul Salaf to “protect and defend Islam in an Islamic state like the Maldives”.
In a letter sent to the Islamic association yesterday, the ministry said recommendations made by Salaf earlier this month were already included in the regulations currently being reviewed by the attorney general’s office.
“The purpose of the regulations that have been drafted is to protect the country and Maldivian society from brutal and harsh practices, divisions and antagonism in the name of Islam and from practices that contradict Islam and Islamic culture,” it reads.
The 11 recommendations made by Salaf included removing anything that conflicts with Islam from the education curriculum or subject syllabuses, making it an offence to spread other religions and openly sell or possess any items that symbolise religious holidays of other religions, and specifying measures to be taken against expatriate teachers found to be promoting other religions or inciting hatred of Islam among students.
Moreover, the proposed regulations should empower the authorities to check printing presses and bookshops for material in conflict with Islam, and make it an offence to publish such opinions or views in the media.
Salaf also recommended obligating non-Muslim visitors to inhabited islands to adhere to a code of dress and conduct appropriate to an Islamic environment.
Furthermore, the regulations should ensure that photos and videos used in advertisements do not clash with Islamic codes of behaviour and make it illegal to introduce elements of foreign cultures that conflict with Islam.
Salaf’s recommendations further call for specifying penalties for those who openly “challenge or defy” God, his Prophet or Islamic shariah, and make it an offence to disrespect the Prophet or his companions.
Lastly, Salaf recommends the creation of a council to take measures against people who issue religious fatwas (edicts or decrees) without the requisite education or learning.
Unless these recommendations are incorporated in the regulations, Salaf’s letter states, it would be “meaningless” and could “open doors” to other religions and cultures.
Salaf claimed action was not taken against Christian missionaries under the old regulations, and were instead used to “punish, jail and torture” Maldivians who “loved Islam and tried to find the right path”.
The letter goes on to recommend that the proposed rules are put up for a public discussion among religious scholars.
In response the letter from the Islamic Ministry, signed by State Minister Mohamed Shaheem Ali Saeed, states that the president’s office, Maldives Police Service and experienced religious scholars were consulted during the drafting process, which spanned six months.
The letter goes on to say the ministry regrets that Salaf has been criticising the ministry and attempting to “mislead the public” about its policies instead of offering either assistance or constructive help.
Moreover, it reads, the ministry regrets that Salaf’s president Abdullah bin Ibrahim Mohamed refused an invitation to join the Fiqh academy or help draft Friday sermons.
“But ultimately, even if you do it from afar, we believe sharing such counsel is a good step for the future and we are grateful for it,” it reads.
Salaf responded to the letter today, thanking the ministry for assuring the association that its recommendations were already in the regulations.
“What remains now is the wait for the regulations to become enforced,” Salaf replied.
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"Hussain on Thu, 7th Jan 2010 11:18 AM
anon and others:
I have never seen any scientific article or evolutionary documentaries saying “fact of evolution”. Because there is no 100% proof to say that evolution is a fact."
in return, i have not seen a scienctific article or religious documentary that proves the esixtence of god, or the "correct"-ness of any one religion.
An American female reporter, Helesian Stansbery, who is syndicated in over 250 newspapers, worked in the area of journalism and broadcasting for over 20 years, and visited numerous Muslim countries had this to say at the end of one of her visits to a Muslim country:
“The Arab-Islamic society is wholesome and healthy. This society must continue to protect its traditions that restrict both its males and females to a certain and reasonable degree. This society definitely differs from the European and American societies. The Arab-Islamic society has its own traditions that impose certain restrictions and limitations on women and give special respect and status to parents… First and foremost, the most strict restrictions and limitations are on absolute sexual freedom that truly threatens both the society and the family in Europe and the United States of America. Therefore, the restrictions that are imposed by the Arab-Islamic society are valid and beneficial as well. I strongly recommend that you adhere to your traditions and code of ethics. Forbid coeducation. Restrict female freedom, or rather, return back to the full 'purdah' (veiling) practices.
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Truly this is better for you than the sexual freedom of Europe and the United States of America. Forbid coeducation because we have suffered from it in the USA. The American society has become sophisticated, full of all forms and terms of sexual freedom. The victims of sexual freedom and coeducation are filling the prisons, sidewalks, bars, taverns and whorehouses. The (false) freedom that we have granted to our young females and daughters has turned them to drugs, crime and white slavery. Coeducation, sexual freedom and all other types of "freedom" in the European and American societies have threatened the family and shaken moral values and ethics."
@ Ibn Ali
Forget about the "american female reporter Helesian Stansbery who is syndicated in over 250 newspapers"...
What you are quoting is a muslim woman surfacing with a website titled "Women in Islam" http://www.womeninislam.ws/en/introduction.aspx
There is no "about" and you can be sure that the anonymous owner of this site is a fundamentalist but never a woman.
When you go to Wikipedia for a bio of "Helesian Stansbery", you get this "result": NIL
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=Helesian+Stansbery&go=Go
Your manoeuvres are as thinly veiled as those of Nishan or Rilwan and it doesn´t matter what others say - you insist that you are right. A noraml debate is not possible with people of your kind.
It is time that people start to ignore you and your "brothers" because all you have in mind is a simple power grab.
The average poor and undernourished Maldivian probably deserves better then you and your ilk.
Shame on you for trying to pretend, to intimidate and later oppress the ordinary people.
Your brother rilwan still hasn´t explained how he intends to compete against many millions of young and educated youngsters in yourdirect neighbourhood.
I am not surprised because as long as people let you blather about religion, you don´t have to reply questions about economy and the livelyhoodof your nation.
It will come back and haunt you - be sure.
See to it that neither India nor China will take you over one day.
Didn't you guys see the crowd gathered at Fareed's lecture last Friday night. It showed that the fundamentalists and its supporters are increasing at an enormous rate. Guees nishan is right and fundamentalists are winning the war. Insha Allah. Allah is great.
Of course the crowd will increase because isn’t this a economic crisis and difficult period so that the fundamentalists will use the psychological low periods to brainwash people. So I wonder where the Maldivian fundamentalists get the income or the source of funding.
Fathimath Afiya. I have said it again and I will stick by it. The extremists get their funding from arab oil, heroin sales, opium smuggling, arms trade and the sex slave trade.
Who are they to preach about morals?
and guess Afiya's and Anon's dream of naked women roaming the city, disco's, pubs and bars has already shattered.
Jade, you are really some piece. lol. I never made such statements. Anon and many others like me do not want Maldives to be talibanised and pakistanised by killing other Muslims. Maldives majority has been always religious and believe in Islam. So why are you getting sensitive when we mention about the income source of fundamentalists.......
Anon, I agree the big extremist groups like Taliban, Salafism and others get their funding through the sources that you have mentioned. I wonder whether we should do a research on how the Maldivian fundamentalists get their money.....
Dear Anon and Afiya,
Anone have you not come across Quran.There cannot be a bigger evidence or an article than Quran.Prove it wrong if you can.The Humans and Jinns together couldn't do it.I wonder what you can do?You are talking about oil which the Americans killed millions of children in Iraq to get to it.The Maldives Police recently caught some leading drug dealers.I didn't see any guy with a beard.But i so moderate Muslims like you.The Americans and the Russians are the biggest dealers of weapon in the world.The world biggest democratic countries.We are not fighting for so called women rights which advice the women to strip naked,leave theirs sons and daughters to be marooned,strip your self naked in magazines,movies,go out into the street,offices with full make to be harassed and stalked,to be danced in front of presidents and ministers,got to pubs get drunk ,go to disco's loose your virginity.
Afiya you showed your true colors siding with people like Anon.You claim to love Islam but you are siding with person who even don't know he is doing here.
May ALLAH(SWA) guide you all.
Isn't this how the fundamentalists see women rights? They think women rights mean stripping, trading sex so on. They can’t bring themselves to accept that women can have free choices; they can free agents to make their own decisions, women can make their own minds whether they want to be intimate with their husbands when and if they want. All these and more are what we want about women rights. But isn’t that what the fundamentalists would not understand. What their whole purpose is to control and overpower women and enslave them. Ofcos many bearded men have been caught smuggling, dealing opium dealing, selling arms and trying to kill innocent. What more do we want not to name fundamentalist.
@ Rilwan, can you explain the funding sources for spreading Salafism and extremism in the Maldives. Whats the real story? I am really curios to learn.
Rilwan, so let me get this straight you are advocating women to be bared indoors with no other purpose in life than raise children and serve men with no education. In other words a Taliban utopia. What is it about a working educated women that gets your beards in a such a knot ? why the insecurities ? and your answer to others killing innocents is kill more innocents where in Quran does it condone killing of innocent men women and children ?
I have said it once and i would say it again those who advocate killing of innocents, banning of books, mutilating genitals of females, denying of education to women, having women relegated to a role of nothing but servitude to men,honor killing women should they go against a wish of men, should not under any circumstances be part of a dialog that is shaping the law for hundreds of thousands.
You are right fundies are winning and that is because of two things. One The young and educated are leaving the country in doves which leave the uneducated and impressionable. Two even those who stay would not dare to speak up any one who claims to be Sheik/mulla cause questioning religion is a taboo in Maldives.
Anon,Afiya i agree the source of funding should be investigated. you seem to have ruffled quite a number of feathers with your argument. And Rilwan i guess in your world correlation is causation. well riddle me this where in the world is most opium grown ?
Dear Afiya and Anon,
I have never said that women should be kept indoors liked caged animals.In Islam women like Aisha(RA)are leading people in Islamic teaching and many companions came to seek her knowledge.Plus many other women at that time participated in wars and community work .WOMEN CAN WORK BUT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF ISLAM.If she goes to work in a resort island or an office full of men than Islam doesn't allow that.You are saying the fundamentalists in Maldives are keeping their women in bondage.If you can name one incident or give a evidence to this Iam ready to except what you are saying.Give me proof please.
Dear Nashath Rafeeq,
Advocating to kill innocents, banning of books, mutilating genitals of females, denying of education to women, having women relegated to a role of nothing but servitude to men,honor killing women should they go against a wish of men.These things have nothing to do with Salaf,Adhaalath or Islamic ministry.There are extreme groups who conduct these in the name of Islam.If salaf,adhaalath or Islamic ministry had called out for these things to be practiced in the Maldives please tell me a WHEN,WHERE AND WHO if you are speaking the truth.
I think it not fear that people hesitate to find more about Islam.Its because they have to leave all their worldly desires and the wealth.
BY THE WAY PLEASE UPDATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE REGARDING OPIUM PRODUCTION.ITS MYANMAR WHICH PRODUCES LARGEST OPIUM IN THE WORLD NOW.
Thank you.
Dear Afiya,
This Surah in Quran is our fuel our funding;
Surah 103 - Al 'Asr TIME THROUGH THE AGES
103.001 By (the Token of) Time (through the ages),
103.002 Verily Man is in loss,
103.003 Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy.
Thank you.
Lieutenant Colonel James `Bo' Gritz is the most decorated Green Beret commander of the Vietnam Era. This is his interview.
(excerpts are from a transcript of the video) Col. James `Bo' Gritz:
What I want to tell you very quickly is something that I feel is more heinous than the Bataan death march. Certainly it is of more concern to you as Americans than the Watergate. What I'm talking about is something we found out in Burma - May 1987. We found it out from a man named Khun Sa. He is the recognized overlord of heroin in the world. Last year he sent 900 tons of opiates and heroin into the free world. This year it will be 1200 tons.
[video showing discussion at Khun Sa's headquarters -- some translation of Burmese to English going on. Bo Gritz still narrating in foreground.]
On video tape he said to us something that was most astounding: that US government officials have been and are now his biggest customers, and have been for the last twenty years. I wouldn't believe him. We fought a war in Laos and Cambodia even as we fought whatever it was in Vietnam. The point is that there are as many bomb holes in those two other countries as there are in Vietnam. Five hundred and fifty plus Americans were lost in Laos. Not one of them ever came home. We heard a president say, "The war is over, we are out with honor - all of the prisoners are home." and a few other lies. Now we got rid of that president, but we didn't get rid of the problem. We ran the war in Laos and Cambodia through drugs. The money that would not be appropriated by a liberal congress, was appropriated. And you know who we used for distribution? Santos Trafficante, old friend of the CIA and mobster out of Cuba and Florida. We lost the war!
Fifty-eight thousand Americans were killed. Seventy-thousand became drug casualties. In the sixties and seventies you saw an infusion of drugs into America like never before. Where do you think the Mafia takes the heroin and opiates that it gets through its arrangement with the US government? It doesn't distribute them in Africa or Europe. This is the big money bag HERE. We're Daddy Warbucks for them. So I submit to you that the CIA has been pressed for solutions. Each time they have gone to the sewer to find it. And you can't smell like a rose when you've been playing in the cesspool. We've been embracing organized crime. Now you've all looked and heard about Ollie North, about the Contras, about nobody knowing anything.
source:http://www.pd.org/topos/perforations/perf2/betrayed_interview.html
I Worship My Lord
Author: by Na'ima B. Robert
I wake before dawn.
No muadhin calls me,
No footsteps stir me,
Instead society spurns me,
Labels me and burns me.
But everyday,
I wake before dawn.
I wear my hijab.
No father threatens me,
No religious police warn me,
Instead society judges me
Mocks me and shuns me.
But everyday,
I wear my hijab.
I rear my children.
No family pressures me,
No work barriers limit me,
Instead society shames me,
Names me and blames me.
But everyday,
I rear my children.
I follow the Sunnah.
No culture defines me,
No history holds me,
Instead, society scolds me,
Re-makes and moulds me.
But every day,
I follow the Sunnah.
I strive for Paradise.
No teachers indoctrinate me,
No worldly hardships sedate me,
Instead society rejects me,
Tempts me and affects me.
But every day,
I strive for Paradise.
I worship my Lord.
No imam compels me,
No rules force my heart,
Instead, society fears me,
And dares not come near me.
But every day,
I worship my Lord.
Every day,
In every way,
Through hardship and strife
And the all-consuming,
O so fleeting,
Bitter sweetness of life,
I worship my Lord.
Always the fundamentalists at every opportunity will try to promote women to be second citizens in the name of Islam. Truth and reality they can't seperate.
Dear AFIYA, please READ.....!!!
Islam honours women greatly. It honours women as mothers who must be respected, obeyed and treated with kindness. Pleasing one's mother is regarded as part of pleasing Allaah. Islam tells us that Paradise lies at the mother’s feet, i.e. that the best way to reach Paradise is through one's mother. And Islam forbids disobeying one’s mother or making her angry, even by saying a mild word of disrespect. The mother’s rights are greater than those of the father, and the duty to take care of her grows greater as the mother grows older and weaker. All of that is mentioned in many texts of the Qur'aan and Sunnah.
For example, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And We have enjoined on man to be dutiful and kind to his parents”
[al-Ahqaaf 46:15]
“And your Lord has decreed that you worship none but Him. And that you be dutiful to your parents. If one of them or both of them attain old age in your life, say not to them a word of disrespect, nor shout at them but address them in terms of honour.
24. And lower unto them the wing of submission and humility through mercy, and say: ‘My Lord! Bestow on them Your Mercy as they did bring me up when I was young’”
[al-Isra’ 17:23, 24]
Ibn Maajah (2781) narrated that Mu’aawiyah ibn Jaahimiah al-Sulami (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: O Messenger of Allaah, I want to go for jihad with you, seeking thereby the Face of Allaah and the Hereafter. He said, “Woe to you! Is your mother still alive?” I said, Yes. He said, “Go back and honour her.” Then I approached him from the other side and said: O Messenger of Allaah, I want to go for jihad with you, seeking thereby the Face of Allaah and the Hereafter. He said, “Woe to you! Is your mother still alive?” I said, Yes. He said, “Go back and honour her.” Then I approached him from in front and said, O Messenger of Allaah, I want to go for jihad with you, seeking thereby the Face of Allaah and the Hereafter. He said, “Woe to you! Is your mother still alive?” I said, Yes. He said, “Go back and honour her (lit. stay by her feet), for there is Paradise.”
Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah. It was also narrated by al-Nasaa’i with the words: “Stay with her for Paradise is beneath her feet.”
Al-Bukhaari (5971) and Muslim (2548) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: A man came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, who is most deserving of my good company?” He said: “Your mother.” He said: “Then who?” He said: “Your mother.” He said: “Then who?” He said: “Your mother.” He said: “Then who?” He said: “Then your father.”
And there are other texts which we do not have room to mention here.
One of the rights which Islam gives to the mother is that her son should spend on her if she needs that support, so long as he is able and can afford it. Hence for many centuries it was unheard of among the people of Islam for a mother to be left in an old-people’s home or for a son to kick her out of the house, or for her sons to refuse to spend on her, or for her to need to work in order to eat and drink if her sons were present.
Islam also honours women as wives. Islam urges the husband to treat his wife in a good and kind manner, and says that the wife has rights over the husband like his rights over her, except that he has a degree over her, because of his responsibility of spending and taking care of the family’s affairs. Islam states that the best of the Muslim men is the one who treats his wife in the best manner, and the man is forbidden to take his wife’s money without her consent. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“and live with them honourably”
[al-Nisa’ 4:19]
“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wise”
[al-Baqarah 2:228]
And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I urge you to treat women well.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 331; Muslim, 1468.
And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
And Islam honours women as daughters, and encourages us to raise them well and educate them. Islam states that raising daughters will bring a great reward. For example, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever takes care of two girls until they reach adulthood, he and I will come like this on the Day of Resurrection,” and he held his fingers together. Narrated by Muslim, 2631.
Ibn Maajah (3669) narrated that ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever has three daughters and is patient towards them, and feeds them, gives them to drink and clothes them from his riches, they will be a shield for him from the Fire on the Day of Resurrection.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.
Islam honours woman as sisters and as aunts. Islam enjoins upholding the ties of kinship and forbids severing those ties in many texts. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O people! Spread (the greeting of) salaam, offer food (to the needy), uphold the ties of kinship, and pray at night when people are sleeping, and you will enter Paradise in peace.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah, 3251; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.
Al-Bukhaari (5988) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah, may He be exalted, said to the ties of kinship: ‘Whoever upholds you, I will support him, and whoever breaks you, I will cut him off.’”
All of these qualities may co-exist in a single woman: she may be a wife, a daughter, a mother, a sister, an aunt, so she may be honoured in all these ways.
To conclude: Islam raised the status of women, and made them equal with men in most rulings. So women, like men, are commanded to believe in Allaah and to worship Him. And women are made equal to men in terms of reward in the Hereafter. Women have the right to express themselves, to give sincere advice, to enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, and to call people to Allaah. Women have the right to own property, to buy and sell, to inherit, to give charity and to give gifts. It is not permissible for anyone to take a woman’s wealth without her consent. Women have the right to a decent life, without facing aggression or being wronged. Women have the right to be educated; in fact it is obligatory to teach them what they need to know about their religion.
Anyone who compares the rights of women in Islam with their situation during the Jaahiliyyah or in other civilizations will understand that what we are saying is true. In fact we are certain that women are given the greatest honour in Islam.
There is no need for us to mention the situation of women in Greek, Persian or Jewish society, but even Christian societies had a bad attitude towards women. The theologians even gathered at the Council of Macon to discuss whether woman was merely a body or a body with a soul. They thought it most likely that women did not have a soul that could be saved, and they made an exception only in the case of Mary (Maryam – peace be upon her).
The French held a conference in 586 CE to discuss whether women had souls or not, and if they had souls, were these souls animal or human? In the end, they decided that they were human! But they were created to serve men only.
During the time of Henry VIII, the English Parliament issued a decree forbidding women to read the New Testament because they were regarded as impure.
Until 1805, English law allowed a man to sell his wife, and set a wife’s price at six pennies.
In the modern age, women were kicked out of the house at the age of eighteen so that they could start working to earn a bite to eat. If a woman wanted to stay in the house, she had to pay her parents rent for her room and pay for her food and laundry.
See ‘Awdat al-Hijaab, 2/47-56.
How can this compare to Islam which enjoins honouring and kind treatment of women, and spending on them?
Secondly:
With regard to the changes in these rights throughout the ages, the basic principles have not changed, but with regard to the application of these principles, there can be no doubt that during the golden age of Islam, the Muslims applied the sharee’ah of their Lord more, and the rulings of this sharee’ah include honouring one’s mother and treating one’s wife, daughter, sister and women in general in a kind manner. The weaker religious commitment grew, the more these rights were neglected, but until the Day of Resurrection there will continue to be a group who adheres to their religion and applies the sharee’ah of their Lord. These are the people who honour women the most and grant them their rights.
Despite the weakness of religious commitment among many Muslims nowadays, women still enjoy a high status, whether as daughters, wives or sisters, whilst we acknowledge that there are shortcomings, wrongdoing and neglect of women’s rights among some people, but each one will be answerable for himself
just because people who follow Islam have shortcomings as humans and some people without knowledge go beyond the boundaries, that does not mean that its a fault in Islam i dont think there is much to say after 'mimmo's comment cause masha Allah he brought it out Cristal clear. i suggest for those who are really looking for the true path pls spend some time to think and learn the true teachings of Islam, and i know there are some who just want to create havoc and mislead others. just because Timothy McVeigh blew up oklahoma city that does not mean that its cause of his religion or his parents, does it?? well the media can portray him and his religion as a terrorist and a cruel religion. the true enslavement is enslavement of the mind, these days most people believe every single thing they see on TV rather than going for true facts its easy to sit back and look into the ever so amazing programs while they slowly change the way you think. i would like to ask those ladies who claim that they are fighting for their rights why do you like to see those hindi movies over and over again and cry over it and think that ur life is like that?? why do you think so many people work, just to make sure ladies wear a "sexy" dress?? these days woman fear that if they dont look sexy enough they might not get a husband the fear for their jobs so they try to look sexy and be a sex doll to her boss and ends up jeopardizing her marriage. woman these days are forced to follow the latest fashion or they maybe rejected by the society. hijab make sure ladies are judge by how intelligent they are and by their knowledge not by their looks. anyone heard about sexualization and its effects on the young generation.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/63514.php
thats the why Islam make sure ladies are not judge by their bodily looks, and they are always protected by their male guardian.
those who love European culture and think thats development, well learn the reality, how many woman gets raped and how many are killed... and how many get justice
why are you ladies trying to prove to others you are a lady by showing your bosoms and body and making it a cheap showcase, if your are ladies shouldn't the public believe you even if you dont be so cheap and have to prove your self.
taking away the chastity and morality from woman is liberation well than raping them is for their freedom of expression.
@ mimmo
Your article is lengthy to read. However I just had a look at your heading. I have been saying same thing all along in this trend, that Islam protects women rights and child rights in all respects, while Salafism and fundamentalists promote otherwise.
@afiya
would you pls explain to me what salafism and fundamentalists is?? in your point of view
@hexter
I perceived that you have a strong intellect in proving Islam is the right religion, which I am glad and which I think Maldivians are really in dire need of. Many young Maldivians are misinformed about the religion of Islam and ending up in loosing thir faith. However, just wonder why you name says Lord Hexter? which as to my knowledge contradicts with one of the fundamentals of Islam. And are you really a true beleive?
Furthermore, Ive seen many people not willing to accept the fact regardless of any of your detail explanation. Ignorants wont concede their defeat unless they opt for better values. Therefore, just be aware and dont loose your hope to make people aware of Islam. May Allah bless you if you are doing with a good intention.
@adr
thank you, just because someone says he is the lord of something that does not mean that he is claiming divinity, claiming you own a car and saying your the lord of the car would it make you the lord of all things?? even in the arabic language saying your the Rabb of this house of Rabb of this land wont make you a mushrik our a person who claims divinity. but when you say lord of the world or Lord of everything or rabb al Aalameen that means ur claiming divinity. its simple English my friend. and it does not contradict with the fundamental belief of Islam.
In Maldives those who don't like the teaching of Islam are only a minority and majority would love and support any law which would protect and promote the Islamic identity of the country.
This minority and their apparent patrons from abroad can simply kiss their own asses...
Explain how come Adalatha members were not supported by majority people in the elections. Now 'SOME' Islamic scholars are trying to mingle politics and religion to their advantage. They have planned a long-term strategy to brainwash people by establishing extremist ideologies of religious factions through websites, links like this and an Islamic channel and so on. Lordhexter go back and the tread and I don’t want to go into a useless argument with you like most of you who share fixed ideas. It’s already been explained a hundred times by me and others. Salafism and fundamentalists as promoted in the context of talibanism and so on.
@ afiya gaining the majority would not legitimize a crime and a minority would not criminalize a good deed. would it be considered a legitimate act if the majority lynched you?? lol. you make me laugh with these childish arguments. So elections prove that Maldivian people like you actually don't know what religion is. There are millions of good reasons and proof that shows most of the voters was bought and even blackmailed in cases through that election if you’re so much into the statistics please check the election commission’s complaint section.
The people who came up with these terms like extremism, salafism and fundamentalism have never ever come up with a proper clear definition for it. Just because some people committed crime under the name of Islam does it really make Islam a criminal cult?
Your allegations have no proof and it’s just your personal grudge because it’s against your understanding. Islam has neither moderation nor extremism. The true path is shown by Allah through his book and his messenger. so if you would like to moderate Islam by taking off your veil which is prescribed by Allah through his book clearly so that not a single interpretation is needed or if you would like to drink some rum to moderate your view against Allah's Sharia, than my dear you would be considered a non Muslim, if you would not come to the true teaching of Islam.
I wonder why you would say brainwashing or lies while from your false argument it’s obvious that you have no basic Islamic knowledge, how would you know if it’s a lie or not? Why don't you learn the religion before opening up your mouth? by the way where in Maldives do they have an Islamic channel? Please don't tell me they are trying to because you just mentioned that they have one.
its a pity such a loud mocking bird would keep mocking and repeating whatever crap she picks up on internet without proper knowledge and understanding, wouldn't it be called the real blind following or perhaps brainwashed.
learn the religion and than talk about it.
Islam is the one and only true religion and the complete way of life.
My Dear Sister,
Know that you are man's sister and half of humanity. You are a mother, wife, daughter, sister, aunt, grand daughter or grand mother. The Prophet said, what translated means, Women are, indeed, men's partners. [Abu Dawood]. You are a member of the great nation of Islam, the best nation ever produced for mankind. No other nation on earth has more great men, leaders and conquerors than this nation. It is the nation of guidance and the straight religion, and it leads humanity to righteousness and truth. It transforms people from worshippers of slaves to worshippers of the Lord of slaves, from life's pressures to the pleasures of the Life after, and from the injustice of other religions to the justice of Islam.
Your ancestors, great women of Islam, were one of the main reasons for this great nation to take this great place among all nations. Allah, Who granted Islam to this nation, made a high place for Muslim women, and decreed that they share in the responsibilities of enjoining truth, forbidding evil and raising the flag of Islam. He said, what translated means, The believers, men and women, are loyalists of one another, they enjoin righteousness and forbid evil, they offer their prayers perfectly and give the Zakat, and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will leave His Mercy on them. Surely Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. [9:71]
Allah has given Muslim women what they can bare of orders and duties. He is the God Who knows His creation, Should He not know what He created? And He is the Most Kind, All-Aware (of everything). [67:14].
My dear sister, you are called upon today to truly become an active member of the Muslim nation, strive to establish victory for Allah's Word, implement the Quran and help build the generation of Iman.
What Do Your Enemies Want From You?
There are those who want to distract you from doing your duty. They want to distract you from meeting your noble obligation, that is, to defend the religion of Allah and raise His Word high. Those enemies use many methods:
First: They distract you from what Allah created you to perform of worship, belief and Da'wah (propagating Islam). They use this worldly life as their bate: Jewelry stores, fashions that originate in non-Muslim countries, new models all the time, desires raised, hunger that can never be satisfied, pleasures and competition for them and endless ways for joy. Allah did not create us for this. Indulging in these matters is usually accompanied by wasting time and money and igniting enmity and competition between the rich and the poor.
Second: They ignite enmity between you and man. To those sinners, you are a daughter that is put down, a humiliated mother, an abused wife and an oppressed sister! Men are always unjust, hypocrites, dictators, freedom- preventers and suppressers, according to them. There is a fabricated war that those evil ones are starting for no reason other than to direct you to rebel against your father, be arrogant with your brother and disobedient to your husband. They do not call for justice, mercy and unity. They call for hatred, arrogance and destruction.
Third: They do not stop at their call for rebellion against parents, brothers and husbands, rather, they plot against Islam. They call upon you to rebel against the obligations of Islam and the decrees of the All-Knowing King. Islam, to them, is unjust and Islamic laws are imperfect and restrictive. They call upon you, day and night, to rebel and insist on the disobedience of this religion. They try to rid you of your religion. They try to rid you of comfort and safety under generous parenthood, happy marriage and good brotherly relations.
Those devils portray piety and honor as chains on freedom. To them, Hijab does not cover the head, but also covers the mind; prayer, fasting and Zakat are a waste of time and effort; and obedience to husbands is slavery and a retum to the stone age. They distorted all facts and changed all truths, all to serve their evil goals.
Dear Sister,
The goals that your enemies and the enemies of your religion are seeking to achieve are well known. They want you to be available for them to fulfill their evil desires whenever they wish. They want you to be a mistress that has no honor. They want you to be found everywhere, on roads and in places of sin, without honor, religion or manners. They seek for you only what they want you to do. The Western world has gone through this all. Women of the West are the part of society that is facing injustice and dishonor. They strive to please men who keep changing partners and seek pleasures but with no responsibility and no consideration of the evil consequences of their sinful actions.
O Muslim sister, read and know about those women who discarded shyness and honor and followed their desires, what was the result of their deeds? Was their end honorable and desirable, or was it a shameful and hated end?
Advice For My Sister In Islam
Be proud of your religion and the religion of your ancestors. Be a good example for your sons and daughters and sincere in your belonging to this mighty nation. Know that honor is an honor to all wise people, and that adultery is dishonorable to all nations, even if some called it freedom. Know that adultery is also done with the eyes by seeing, with the ears by listening, and with the mouth by kissing, as was mentioned in a Hadith related by Imam Muslim. Your happiness is in being an obedient and believing daughter, a loyal and generous wife and a pious and merciful mother. Know that prayer is the cornerstone of Islam. Fasting one day, for the sake of Allah, takes your face seventy years away from Hellfire, as the Hadith, related by Al-Bukhari and Muslim, states. Charity is a major cause for gaining forgiveness and for repentance to be accepted. Those women who are showing parts of their bodies to men, will not enter Paradise or smell its fragrance and are cursed, as in the Hadith related by Imam Muslim. Hijab is an honor and protection for you. Hijab must be modest in color and not exotic, wide and thick and not revealing, different from the dress of non-Muslim women and men.
My Dear Sister,
These are words from the heart. These are words of good and sincere advice. Beware of the loyalists of Satan who want to lead you astray. Be a slave of Allah, righteous and decendent of righteous women and know your role in building this great nation. Perform your duty and do not be a cause for destruction. Be a maker of righteous generation that will lead mankind, again, to what is right and proper, to the great religion of Islam.
@lordhexter, dats gud one...cheers
You have put it very well lordhexter. I have many doubts about this Afiya. She has just been bluffing like someone who has no knoweledge of the true Islam. She must have been brainwashed by the western media. Because it is the west that invented these terms. Afiya keeps repeating salafism and fundamentalism in her comments.
I have no idea what this have to do with Islam. Just because some so called muslims kill innocent civilians or subjugates women, we cannot link these to islam. Islam can be judged by the Qur'an and Sunna and those who follow them. The best exmple is our beloved Prophet (PBUH).
I think fiya should now provide real events and references where adaalath or salaf is preaching extremism. If what adaalath have been trying was spreading extremism then i am sorry to say this. Afiya supports maldivian girls to roam the streets of Male' almost naked. She supports the massage palas to blossom in the street corners....The sad thing is people open their mouth without indepth knowledge of Islam. We have to understand the very basic fact of our existence and creation. That is to worship the Almighty, the Creator.
Assalaamu alaikum 🙂
Just thought I would comment on the buruga issue.
Those not wearing buruga but with the right conduct and practicing the five pillars of islam are far better than those wearing buruga and abiding to bad conduct.
Peace n tc
Salaams again, it is also to be noted that in the Glorious Qur'an Islam also carefully instructs both men and women on how to behave toward each other. For instance the Qur’an tells us in Chapter 64 An-Nur in verses 30 and 31 exactly how to act in the presence of the opposite sex:
64:30- Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
64:31-And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss. (Holy Qur’an translation to English by Sheikh Abdullah Yusuf Ali)
So, immediately we understand that it is more than just the clothing that is desired. It is the proper respect and behavior of the two sexes toward each other at all times. Keep in mind that Islam is not just another religion. Islam (Total Surrender, Submission, Obedience, Sincerity and Peace with Allah) is for all people, in all places and in all times.
Salaams n tc 🙂
Salaams again,
However it should also be noted that in the verse 31 of Chapter 64 God mentions the veil. Hence it is common sense that the veil should be worn and with it the bossoms should be covered too.
🙂 tc, n peace...
Dear Afiya,
I think you have seen the number of people gathered to hear the sermon of Sheik Fareed on 15th Jan 2010.Recently we haven't see this much of people gathered even for political party meeting.I wonder this rings bells in your ear.
What you call are fundamentalist growing.If the community doesn't want this i don't think so many people will
gather to listen to him.
Its just a minority of Maldivian who share the same thought as you.
ALLAH(SWA) said ALLAH(SWA)will protect Islam till the last day.This is what you are seeing.
Thank you.
Here majority of you who speak of Islam without proper knowledge. It’s obvious that most of you people cut and paste stuff from internet without citing the sources. This is how majority of fundamentalists use their power over the poorly educated people in the Maldives. Fundamentalism will use tactics to sway people. It will be more precedent in the coming years. Why, there are plenty of academic reasons as well obvious reasons. One thing, people barely have means to survive, economically we are struggle, and there is political instability and so on. The main crux for fundamentalists is political power. I bet you this, the gang who are writing who claim to love Islam is part of this rising Islam political power in the Maldives.
@Hussain
You need to read the whole trend without accusing anything. This is one thing I hate most in this so called people who claim to promote Islam. They accuse people without real evidence. I claimed women and children have rights to education, movement and so on. I never said they should be roam naked on the streets or should not cover. Check you intelligence.
You guys who claim to promote Islam are making baseless arguments without support of evidence. You guys always do this, whoever questions your motives, asks for information what you is your long-term strategy, you attack them personally or undermine their intelligence. This is one way you think you can hurt humiliate or kill them. In that way, you think they will give up and leave. Then you guys can gather to your groups and say we are victorious like Osama Bin Laden. He never won anything. Allah will punish all like him. Isn’t Osama Bin Laden fighting for Islam political power which he ruled Extremist Islam for years in Afghanistan? Isn’t that what you guys are trying to promote here in Maldives?
@ afiya, you are the one who claimed that the majority is right and now you are saying that they are wrong?? Remember it is I who broke that point of you when you said that, and now you have changed your mind?? It is I who accused you of talking without proper knowledge “it’s a pity such a loud mocking bird would keep mocking and repeating whatever crap she picks up on internet without proper knowledge and understanding, wouldn’t it be called the real blind following or perhaps brainwashed.” Now you’re throwing that at the people who are against you. Saying most people cut and paste from the internet well all the people who are against you brought verses from Quran and Hadhiths with citations, it is you who do that which I mentioned before, the people who are religious re not working against education nor to take advantage from those uneducated that’s why they are trying to teach the people so that they would know they right path. And the way you use the word fundamentalism and fundamentals, for your kind information in the sentence “Fundamentalism will use tactics to sway people.” The proper way should be ‘fundamentalists will use tactics to sway the people.” Which is again in question, what in the world do u call “fundamentalism”? Would you mind providing me with just a simple definition of “fundamentalism, extremism?”
People barely have means to survive?? Well as we say Islam is the solution for everything so if you implement Islam we wont have to be that way, but the so called “moderate” muslims like you thought even if Allah said in the holy Quran وَحَرَّمَ الرِّبَا وَأَحَلَّ اللهُ الْبَيْعَ (Baqara 275) “and Allah has allowed trading and forbidden usury”
The moderates thought well we would moderate it and make interest lawful, so exactlay what Allah said in the Quran has happened. What you now call the economical crisis is the result of unlawful trade.
The political instability is here cause of lack of knowledge in the people and the people like you who are trying to separate state and religion thinking a secular state would be the best. For your information Islam is not only in the mosque it is the complete way of life. Islam teach us how to life our life in every aspect of life. So Islam will rule nation and only by an Islamic state the rights of the people would be properly protected. Cause the secular states like UK, 10.51% UK population are criminals where 3.85% USA population are criminals. Because when something like this (http://haveeru.com.mv/?page=details&id=92400) happens the criminals would be sentenced to jail where they learn from other inmates how to master their crime and how not to get caught next time. While in KSA where Islamic shariah is fully implemented 0.32% of the population are criminals, that’s the lowest crime rate IN THE WORLD. Because people know they won’t get away with their crimes.
How well do you know Afghanistan before USA invaded it?? Who is bin Laden?? We know now a lot of people die in Afghanistan and Iraq. but were it like that before, for your information whoever bin laden is, he never was the ruler of Afghanistan but only a guest who stayed there. Rulers of Taliban ruled Afghanistan; you just pick up the western media. Well I wonder where are the weapons of mass destructions which they said were in Iraq?? They found Saddam Hussain, but not Bin Laden. Why?? Why are the British conducting an investigation of Iraq war now?? Would it bring Saddam Hussain from his grave? Will that restore what the great nation of Iraq lost?? So please don’t talk about what is going over there because you have no knowledge of what is going over there, only the western media promoting their propaganda.
Stop being a mocking bird and step up and talk properly. I broke all the points you brought up and made points about your view and your ideology which none of it has been answered by you but you simply stole the content of it even though it’s against you and started to throw red strings all over the place meaninglessly. You are the one making childish arguments like I said before, you are making statements without knowledge and citations, you are cut, pasting from the internet.
Answer this
1- What prior Islamic knowledge you have to say that the Maldivian scholars are wrong or trying to mislead the people.
2- What are the extreme acts and crimes done by the Adhaalath and Jamiyyathu Salaf
3- Define extremism and fundamentalism.
4- Provide proper proof and evidence to what you are saying.
5- What do you mean by moderate Islam
6- Should sate and religion be separated
Not much just six simple Questions answer them and I’ll answer the argument you bring forth. I believe in this way it would be a proper discussion to know the right way.
Thank you
Ps: sorry if I “hurt humiliate” you by saying “its a pity such a loud mocking bird would keep mocking and repeating whatever crap she picks up on internet without proper knowledge and understanding, wouldn’t it be called the real blind following or perhaps brainwashed.”
Dear Afiya, I think you have a specific agenda as you have been repeating the same thing over and over again without giving the proof.
When you are asked to provide the proof you twist the words and ignore the questions. I have never heard adaalth or salaf saying that women should stay at home and should not go to school. thats why i ask you to give the proof.
Getting education is compulsory in Islam. There are many verses in the Qur'an that commands us to think and ponder on Allah's creation. I wonder how we can ponder without getting the proper knowledege. Knowledge includes scientific subjects as well.
Knowledge of science infact brings a person who uses the intellect properly closer to Allah. Allah's wisdom and power can be revealed by studying and getting knowledge of His creations.
Islam is actually as most has highlighted, is a complete way of life. It is not confined within the mosque only as the so called 'moderates' put it.
The word fundamentalist refers to someone who adhers to the basic fundamentals of islam.
and i can proudly say that there are no fundamentals of islam which goes against the humanity as a whole. And i am proud to call myself a fundamentalist muslim in this sense.
Lets us n ot make this very compicated. I think as lorhexter has asked you need to explain your view of what a fundamentalist is. Because most probebly you have a confusion and the best thing to do is to clarify the misconception.
May Allah guide all of us to the Straight path.
@afiya
Here is the what webster says on the meaning of fundamentalism.
Main Entry: fun·da·men·tal·ism
Pronunciation: \-tə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1922
1 a often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b : the beliefs of this movement c : adherence to such beliefs
2 : a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles.
The point i want to raise is if you mean fundamentalist as someone who follows to the fundamentals of Islam then i dont hesitate to call myself a fundamentalist.
As i have said the fundamentals of Islam teahcs all positive and good things in life. But if you if to say that a fundamentalist is someone who goes beyond the teachings of Qur'an and AHadith and it is not a correct term to use. I think the more appropriate word for that is extremist.
So thats why you need to answer with exact quotations and reference on where adaalth or salaf is preaching islam in an extreme way.
ie. Are they going away or aginst the Qur'an or AHadith?
@ Hussain & others. You guys are not saying anything new here now. Your deliberations are going in circles since the trend started, its not informative anymore. Its all cut and paste from internet without citing proper sources. Although you claim all knowledgable on Islam. Its obvious from your postings here. Dont you guys have ulterior motives. It would be interesting to learn your real hidden motives in politics and Islam? Isnt that the hidden agenda?
Lordhexter, my simple reply to you. Your arguements are niether academic nor a critical analysis.
You claim to be unaware of Osama and his evil ways, his extremist views?? The same fundamentalist views that is being promoted by some Islamic scholars in the Maldives. Jihad has been promoted in this very trend as if they have affiliation with Allah. You guys are getting ruffled because you know deep down that I know enough about Islam to raise my views here. I don’t have to reiterate my points. Surf Al Jazeer to find about what I am talking about Osama and Fundamentalism if you don’t believe in western papers such as CNN & BBC. Lordhexter was writing against such beliefs in the past but now it seems he has joined with the rest with extreme Islamic views.
@afiya
First of all you failed as always to answer my simple Questions, Islam is not based on anyone’s intellect or thoughts or “feeling right deep down”
This religion is based on FUNDAMENTALS and they are 1 Quran 2 Hadiths 3 Ijma’a 4 Giyas
So you can’t moderate what is on Quran and Hadiths. If you don’t believe in the fundamentals of Islam like the Shia’a or khavarijs, than simply you would seem them going astray.
Never did I change my point of view about killing innocent people which is not in Islam.
1-Before all the human rights movements it was Islamic teachings declaring
1- Nor woman, child and old should be fought or a man who is not fighting in wars
2- No house should be broken into nor farm should be destroyed nor place of worship (even if its not a mosque) should be destroyed
Till the end
If you read the universal declaration of human rights and see the sources you would find Islam had a huge role in it
The very first words “All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.” Check the source they have written about this article it was the very wordings of the second khalif of the prophet Umar bin khatab the great
متى استعبدتم الناس وقد ولدتهم أمهاتهم أحراراً
“When did you enslaved the people when their mothers gave birth to them as free people”
And so on, it may not be an academic or critical argument in your point of view which is very narrow. Just because you feel that you know enough about something that does not prove your point.
2-I never did support the cruel acts committed by some claiming they are true Muslims and following the right path, and by blowing a bomb and created a lot of evil in Maldives, the bitter truth is they just like you had no knowledge and not a single learned scholar amongst them. And that’s the result whenever people followed their feelings and leave the fundamentals of Islam. By Allah almighty I say whoever turns his back to the Quran and hadiths which are the fundamentals of Islam IS NOT A MUSLIM.
3-talking about bin laden the last news was, FBI published an image of how he would look like now and it was the face of a Spanish politician, FBI removed it from their site with shame while it’s all over the net. Which you never knew cause of your high “academic arguments”. There are acts claimed by bin laden there are acts people promoting on his name its in a mist of confusion which I would not come to a conclusion specially based of a cruel non Islamic source. Regarding Aljazeera I do watch it every day and specially the Arabic channel, like bbc even Aljazeera’s news is catered according to the public. The Arabic news differs from the English news but Aljazeera is better because they always quote from western media about things they don’t know and never come to a conclusion portraying a wrong message. The media is not a good source of facts and proof, if it was I don’t think there is any wrong in the communist Korean media. lol what an academic educational argument backed by critical analysis have you brought forth.
Above all Jihad is a part of Islam and there are rules to it and by Allah, Jihad will be there till the end of times, but just because someone claims they are making jihad that does not mean its true jihad, just because they “feel deep down” its jihad. What you feel deep down would be, your stomach being upset or something too vulgarish to be said here.
If you would like to make a proper argument please be kind enough to answer my Questions and reason in an educated manner rather than just spitting out words like a sickening parrot.
By the way I thought it was a typing mistake at first but you keep repeating (as u always do with other words you don’t know the meaning of) “trend” actually here these comments are called a “thread” or did you feel deep inside that the fundamentals of English are wrong and you are following you heart. Lol