The Ministry of Islamic Affairs said draft regulations under the Religious Unity Act will incorporate recommendations by Jamiyathul Salaf to “protect and defend Islam in an Islamic state like the Maldives”.
In a letter sent to the Islamic association yesterday, the ministry said recommendations made by Salaf earlier this month were already included in the regulations currently being reviewed by the attorney general’s office.
“The purpose of the regulations that have been drafted is to protect the country and Maldivian society from brutal and harsh practices, divisions and antagonism in the name of Islam and from practices that contradict Islam and Islamic culture,” it reads.
The 11 recommendations made by Salaf included removing anything that conflicts with Islam from the education curriculum or subject syllabuses, making it an offence to spread other religions and openly sell or possess any items that symbolise religious holidays of other religions, and specifying measures to be taken against expatriate teachers found to be promoting other religions or inciting hatred of Islam among students.
Moreover, the proposed regulations should empower the authorities to check printing presses and bookshops for material in conflict with Islam, and make it an offence to publish such opinions or views in the media.
Salaf also recommended obligating non-Muslim visitors to inhabited islands to adhere to a code of dress and conduct appropriate to an Islamic environment.
Furthermore, the regulations should ensure that photos and videos used in advertisements do not clash with Islamic codes of behaviour and make it illegal to introduce elements of foreign cultures that conflict with Islam.
Salaf’s recommendations further call for specifying penalties for those who openly “challenge or defy” God, his Prophet or Islamic shariah, and make it an offence to disrespect the Prophet or his companions.
Lastly, Salaf recommends the creation of a council to take measures against people who issue religious fatwas (edicts or decrees) without the requisite education or learning.
Unless these recommendations are incorporated in the regulations, Salaf’s letter states, it would be “meaningless” and could “open doors” to other religions and cultures.
Salaf claimed action was not taken against Christian missionaries under the old regulations, and were instead used to “punish, jail and torture” Maldivians who “loved Islam and tried to find the right path”.
The letter goes on to recommend that the proposed rules are put up for a public discussion among religious scholars.
In response the letter from the Islamic Ministry, signed by State Minister Mohamed Shaheem Ali Saeed, states that the president’s office, Maldives Police Service and experienced religious scholars were consulted during the drafting process, which spanned six months.
The letter goes on to say the ministry regrets that Salaf has been criticising the ministry and attempting to “mislead the public” about its policies instead of offering either assistance or constructive help.
Moreover, it reads, the ministry regrets that Salaf’s president Abdullah bin Ibrahim Mohamed refused an invitation to join the Fiqh academy or help draft Friday sermons.
“But ultimately, even if you do it from afar, we believe sharing such counsel is a good step for the future and we are grateful for it,” it reads.
Salaf responded to the letter today, thanking the ministry for assuring the association that its recommendations were already in the regulations.
“What remains now is the wait for the regulations to become enforced,” Salaf replied.
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@ Afiya...y r u so fond of NIGAB. if u dont beleive dat u shud wear it, no body is pressuring u..n in fact u believe dat NIQAB is Arabic culture...y dont u adot the Maldivian old culture being topless dat my pls some...do u believe dat Islam allows u to wear tight ass jeans n top wit or without a hair covering (veil)..does dat represent Islam..
AFIYA...WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUBJECT NIQAB OR JILBAB, WHY IS THAT YOUR INNER SOUL BURST N COULD NOT DIGEST THAT. IF YOU ARE TRUE BELIEVER YOU MUST COVER YOUR ENTIRE BODY.
Verses and hadeeth about hijab;
Verses that have to do with hijab:
1 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful”
[al-Noor 24:31]
2 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment. But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them. And Allaah is All‑Hearer, All‑Knower”
[al-Noor 24:60]
“Women past childbearing” are those who no longer menstruate, so they can no longer get pregnant or bear children.
We shall see below the words of Hafsah bint Sireen and the way in which she interpreted this verse.
3 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]
4 – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Enter not the Prophet’s houses, unless permission is given to you for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation. But when you are invited, enter, and when you have taken your meal, disperse without sitting for a talk. Verily, such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet, and he is shy of (asking) you (to go); but Allaah is not shy of (telling you) the truth. And when you ask (his wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen, that is purer for your hearts and for their hearts. And it is not (right) for you that you should annoy Allaah’s Messenger, nor that you should ever marry his wives after him (his death). Verily, with Allaah that shall be an enormity”
[al-Ahzaab 33:53]
With regard to the Ahaadeeth:
1 – It was narrated from Safiyyah bint Shaybah that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) used to say: When these words were revealed – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – they took their izaars (a kind of garment) and tore them from the edges and covered their faces with them.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4481. The following version was narrated by Abu Dawood (4102):
May Allaah have mercy on the Muhaajir women. When Allaah revealed the words “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)”, they tore the thickest of their aprons (a kind of garment) and covered their faces with them.
Shaykh Muhammad al-Ameen al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
This hadeeth clearly states that what the Sahaabi women mentioned here understood from this verse – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – was that they were to cover their faces, and that they tore their garments and covered their faces with them, in obedience to the command of Allaah in the verse where He said “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” which meant covering their faces. Thus the fair-minded person will understand that woman’s observing hijab and covering her face in front of men is established in the saheeh Sunnah that explains the Book of Allaah. ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) praised those women for hastening to follow the command of Allaah given in His Book. It is known that their understanding of the words “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” as meaning covering the face came from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because he was there and they asked him about everything that they did not understand about their religion. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad) the Dhikr [reminder and the advice (i.e. the Qur’aan)], that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought”
[al-Nahl 16:44]
Ibn Hajar said in Fath al-Baari: There is a report of Ibn Abi Haatim via ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Uthmaan ibn Khaytham from Safiyyah that explains that. This report says: We mentioned the women of Quraysh and their virtues in the presence of ‘Aa’ishah and she said: “The women of Quraysh are good, but by Allaah I have never seen any better than the women of the Ansaar, or any who believed the Book of Allaah more strongly or had more faith in the Revelation. When Soorat al-Noor was revealed – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – their menfolk came to them and recited to them what had been revealed, and there was not one woman among them who did not go to her apron, and the following morning they prayed wrapped up as if there were crows on their heads. It was also narrated clearly in the report of al-Bukhaari narrated above, where we see ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), who was so knowledgeable and pious, praising them in this manner and stating that she had never seen any women who believed the Book of Allaah more strongly or had more faith in the Revelation. This clearly indicates that they understood from this verse – “and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms)” – that it was obligatory to cover their faces and that this stemmed from their belief in the Book of Allaah and their faith in the Revelation. It also indicates that women’s observing hijab in front of men and covering their faces is an act of belief in the Book of Allaah and faith in the Revelation. It is very strange indeed that some of those who claim to have knowledge say that there is nothing in the Qur’aan or Sunnah that says that women have to cover their faces in front of non-mahram men, even though the Sahaabi women did that in obedience to the command of Allaah in His Book, out of faith in the Revelation, and that this meaning is also firmly entrenched in the Sunnah, as in the report from al-Bukhaari quoted above. This is among the strongest evidence that all Muslim women are obliged to observe hijab.
Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 6/594-595.
2 – It was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to go out at night to al-Manaasi’ (well known places in the direction of al-Baqee’) to relieve themselves and ‘Umar used to say to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “Let your wives be veiled.” But the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do that. Then one night Sawdah bint Zam’ah, the wife of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), went out at ‘Isha’ time and she was a tall woman. ‘Umar called out to her: “We have recognized you, O Sawdah!” hoping that hijab would be revealed, then Allaah revealed the verse of hijab.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 146; Muslim, 2170.
3 – It was narrated from Ibn Shihaab that Anas said: I am the most knowledgeable of people about hijab. Ubayy ibn Ka’b used to ask me about it. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married Zaynab bint Jahsh, whom he married in Madeenah, he invited the people to a meal after the sun had risen. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sat down and some men sat around him after the people had left, until the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and walked a while, and I walked with him, until he reached the door of ‘Aa’ishah’s apartment. Then he thought that they had left so he went back and I went back with him, and they were still sitting there. He went back again, and I went with him, until he reached the door of ‘Aa’ishah’s apartment, then he came back and I came back with him, and they had left. Then he drew a curtain between me and him, and the verse of hijab was revealed.
Al-Bukhaari, 5149; Muslim, 1428.
4 – It was narrated from ‘Urwah that ‘Aa’ishah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray Fajr and the believing women would attend (the prayer) with him, wrapped in their aprons, then they would go back to their houses and no one would recognize them.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 365; Muslim, 645.
5 – It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (S) in ihraam, and when they drew near to us we would lower our jilbabs from our heads over our faces, then when they had passed we would uncover them again.
Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1833; Ibn Maajah, 2935; classed as saheeh by Ibn Khuzaymah (4,203) and by al-Albaani in Kitaab Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.
6 – It was narrated that Asma’ bint Abi Bakr said: We used to cover our faces in front of men.
Narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah, 4/203; al-Haakim, 1/624. He classed it as saheeh and al-Dhahabi agreed with him. It was also classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Jilbaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah.
7 – It was narrated that ‘Aasim al-Ahwaal said: We used to enter upon Hafsah bint Sireen who had put her jilbab thus and covered her face with it, and we would say to her: May Allaah have mercy on you. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment” [al-Noor 24:60]. And she would say to us: What comes after that? We would say: “But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them”. And she would say: That is confirming the idea of hijab.
Narrated by al-Bayhaqi, 7/93.
AFIYA, Correct Hijaab is;
Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The conditions of hijaab:
Firstly:
(It should cover all the body apart from whatever has been exempted).
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
This aayah clearly states that it is obligatory to cover all of a woman’s beauty and adornments and not to display any part of that before non-mahram men (“strangers”) except for whatever appears unintentionally, in which case there will be no sin on them if they hasten to cover it up.
Al-Haafiz ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer:
This means that they should not display any part of their adornment to non-mahrams, apart from that which it is impossible to conceal. Ibn Mas’ood said: such as the cloak and robe, i.e., what the women of the Arabs used to wear, an outer garment which covered whatever the woman was wearing, except for whatever appeared from beneath the outer garment. There is no sin on a woman with regard to this because it is impossible to conceal it.
Secondly
(it should not be an adornment in and of itself).
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“… and not to show off their adornment…” [al-Noor 24:31]. The general meaning of this phrase includes the outer garment, because if it is decorated it will attract men’s attention to her. This is supported by the aayah in Soorat al-Ahzaab (interpretation of the meaning):
“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance” [al-Ahzaab 33:33]. It is also supported by the hadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are three, do not ask me about them: a man who leaves the jamaa’ah, disobeys his leader and dies disobedient; a female or male slave who runs away then dies; and a woman whose husband is absent and left her with everything she needs, and after he left she made a wanton display of herself. Do not ask about them.”
(Narrated by al-Haakim, 1/119; Ahmad, 6/19; from the hadeeth of Faddaalah bint ‘Ubayd. Its isnaad is saheeh and it is in al-Adab al-Mufrad).
Thirdly:
(It should be thick and not transparent or “see-thru”)
- because it cannot cover properly otherwise. Transparent or see-thru clothing makes a woman more tempting and beautiful. Concerning this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “During the last days of my ummah there will be women who are clothed but naked, with something on their heads like the humps of camels. Curse them, for they are cursed.” Another hadeeth adds: “They will not enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.”
(Narrated by Muslim from the report of Abu Hurayrah).
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant was women who wear clothes made of light fabric which describes and does not cover. They are clothed in name but naked in reality.
Transmitted by al-Suyooti in Tanweer al-Hawaalik, 3/103.
Fourthly:
(It should be loose, not tight so that it describes any part of the body).
The purpose of clothing is to prevent fitnah (temptation), and this can only be achieved if clothes are wide and loose. Tight clothes, even if they conceal the colour of the skin, still describe the size and shape of the body or part of it, and create a vivid image in the minds of men. The corruption or invitation to corruption that is inherent in that is quite obvious. So the clothes must be wide. Usaamah ibn Zayd said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a thick Egyptian garment that was one of the gifts given to him by Duhyat al-Kalbi, and I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, ‘Why do I not see you wearing that Egyptian garment?’ I said, ‘I gave it to my wife to wear.’ He said, ‘Tell her to wear a gown underneath it, for I am afraid that it may describe the size of her bones.’” (Narrated by al-Diyaa’ al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, 1/442, and by Ahmad and al-Bayhaqi, with a hasan isnaad).
Fifthly:
(It should not be perfumed with bakhoor or fragrance)
There are many ahaadeeth which forbid women to wear perfume when they go out of their houses. We will quote here some of those which have saheeh isnaads:
Abu Moosa al-Ash’ari said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who puts on perfume then passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.”
Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If any one of you (women) goes out to the mosque, let her not touch any perfume.”
Abu Hurayrah said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who has scented herself with bakhoor (incense), let her not attend ‘Ishaa’ prayers with us.”
Moosa ibn Yassaar said that a woman passed by Abu Hurayrah and her scent was overpowering. He said, “O female slave of al-Jabbaar, are you going to the mosque?” She said, “Yes,” He said, “And have you put on perfume because of that?” She said, “Yes.” He said, “Go back and wash yourself, for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘If a woman comes out to the mosque and her fragrance is overpowering, Allaah will not accept any prayer from her until she goes home and washes herself.’”
These ahaadeeth are general in implication. Just as the prohibition covers perfume applied to the body, it also covers perfume applied to the clothes, especially in the third hadeeth, where bakhoor (incense) is mentioned, because incense is used specifically to perfume the clothes.
The reason for this prohibition is quite clear, which is that women’s fragrance may cause undue provocation of desires. The scholars also included other things under this heading of things to be avoided by women who want to go to the mosque, such as beautiful clothes, jewellery that can be seen, excessive adornments and mingling with men. See Fath al-Baari, 2/279.
Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eed said:
This indicates that it is forbidden for a woman who wants to go to the mosque to wear perfume, because this causes provocation of men’s desires. This was reported by al-Manaawi in Fayd al-Qadeer, in the commentary on the first hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah quoted above.
Sixthly:
(It should not resemble the clothing of men)
It was reported in the saheeh ahaadeeth that a woman who imitates men in dress or in other ways is cursed. There follow some of the ahaadeeth that we know:
Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the man who wears women’s clothes, and the woman who wears men’s clothes.”
‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘They are not part of us, the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women.’”
Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed effeminate men and masculine women. He said, ‘Throw them out of your houses.’” He said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) expelled So and so, and ‘Umar expelled So and so.” According to another version: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men.”
‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There are three who will not enter Paradise and Allaah will not even look at them on the Day of Resurrection: one who disobeys his parents, a woman who imitates men, and the duyooth (cuckold, weak man who feels no jealousy over his womenfolk).”
Ibn Abi Maleekah – whose name was ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Ubayd-Allaah – said: “It was said to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), ‘What if a woman wears (men’s) sandals?’ She said: ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed women who act like men.’”
These ahaadeeth clearly indicate that it is forbidden for women to imitate men and vice versa, This usually includes dress and other matters, apart from the first hadeeth quoted above, which refers to dress only.
Abu Dawood said, in Masaa’il al-Imaam Ahmad (p. 261): “I heard Ahmad being asked about a man who dresses his slave woman in a tunic. He said, ‘Do not clothe her in men’s garments, do not make her look like a man.” Abu Dawood said: “I said to Ahmad, Can he give her bachelor sandals to wear? He said, No, unless she wears them to do wudoo’. I said, What about for beauty? He said, No. I said, Can he cut her hair short? He said, No.”
Seventhly:
(It should not resemble the dress of kaafir women).
It is stated in sharee’ah that Muslims, men and women alike, should not resemble or imitate the kuffaar with regard to worship, festivals or clothing that is specific to them. This is an important Islamic principle which nowadays, unfortunately, is neglected by many Muslims, even those who care about religion and calling others to Islam. This is due either to ignorance of their religion, or because they are following their own whims and desires, or because of deviation, combined with modern customs and imitation of kaafir Europe. This was one of the causes of the Muslims’ decline and weakness, which enabled the foreigners to overwhelm and colonize them. “…Verily, Allaah will not change the condition of a people as long as they do not change their state themselves …” [al-Ra’d 13:11 – interpretation of the meaning]. If only they knew.
It should be known that there is a great deal of saheeh evidence for these important rules in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and that the evidence in the Qur’aan is elaborated upon in the Sunnah, as is always the case.
Eighthly:
(It should not be a garment of fame and vanity).
Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever wears a garment of fame and vanity in this world, Allaah will clothe him in a garment of humiliation on the Day of Resurrection, then He will cause Fire to flame up around him.’”
(Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 54-67).
TO ALL WHO HATE N WANT TO BAN SALAF, ADAALATH N OTHER ISLAMIC GROUPS,
Dear All, are you out of your mind, or do you have mental disorder or disease. Do you think that you guys are able to ban Salaf or Adaalath from Maldives. I bet you guys that you wont be able to do that in anyway and in anytime INSHA ALLAH.
But you are just bunch of guys who ONLY can comment on these articles, nothing other than that.
The question is in fact what you guys can do stop or ban Salaf or Adaalath. Suppose, if it happened that you guys banned Salaf n Adaalath, do you think that spreading Islam (ie. Quran n Sunnah) will be stopped in Maldives....ITS IN FACT "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO". Every single day what you guys call as "Wahabis" are increasing...MASHA ALLAH. And again the question is that WHAT YOU GUYS CAN DO TO STOP IT"? But again the answer is that NOTHING, NOTHING BUT NOTHING.
Lastly, May Allah guide us all to the true path of Islam.
@ Mode & so called Niqab
All above is your intepretations. Nowhere it says Niqab or black dress. i still will say Niqab comes from Arabic culture. You can surf internet and paste several versions of intepretations by so called Islamic scholars. Why dont you verify and validate your sources more accurately...........
@nishan
You say 2 eemaan is 100 modernists. How do you know who is modernist.
tolkiwartooth
its understandable when u define the fundamentalists as terrorists like the US n zionists do. i can only c a poor guy brain washed by the western media n zionists..people with clear minds n open eyes r able to c n understand the hidden agenda of the zionists.. they r killing(RAA BONY KY ENNOON) KILLING in the name of terrorism and democracy our brothers, sisters, their children, destroying their homes, torturing them in prisons and so on..if u r a true muslim u must b concerned about it.. concerned about what they mean by fundermentalists muslims..if u know what i mean
n i never said that fundamentalists r violence makers its what your washed brain says about them..i only said the americans r loosing the war in afganistan..n inshaAllah we will win over all the enemies one day by using wisdom patience n confronting them in wars..
i m sorry if i accuse u of shouting but i can c whose mind is exploding o going to a nervous breakdown when hearing the name FUNDAMENTALISTS. i guess from your concern toward the subject u r now even seeing nitemares of muslims with AK47 guns
and lastly pls dont mock the sunna..if u dont want to grow beard o shorten the trouser o wear hijab then dont..mocking is far more dangerous than not practicing the sunna bcox these r things prophet (PBUH) has ordered us to do as it can be clearly seen from many hadheeth ...so when u mock beards n trousers u r mocking the sunna n islam. after all the saved sect from hell among muslims as it is mentioned in one hadheeth are those who follow prophet (pbuh)n his companions way.. n mockery of Allaah, His Messenger(pbuh)and His religion is a characteristic of hypocrites. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?’
Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed”[al-Tawbah 9:65-66]
“Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allaah’s Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allaah gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favours, and Honours on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit”
[al-Baqarah 2:212]
“Verily, (during the worldly life) those who committed crimes used to laugh at those who believed.
30. And, whenever they passed by them, used to wink one to another (in mockery).
31. And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting;
32. And when they saw them, they said: ‘Verily, these have indeed gone astray!’
33. But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not been sent as watchers over them (the believers).
34. But this Day (the Day of Resurrection) those who believe will laugh at the disbelievers
35. On (high) thrones, looking (at all things).
36. Are not the disbelievers paid (fully) for what they used to do?”
[al-Mutaffiffeen 83:29-36]
“Verily, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depth (grade) of the Fire; no helper will you find for them[al-Nisaa’ 4:145]
finally before u rock others o hi5 o think u r a good debator pls consider the above advices wisely n pls dont mock the sunna
i ask Allah to forgive us all indeed Allah is the most merciful.
may Allah guide us all
@nishan: you sound closer to said nervous breakdown than me, friend.
and if you reread everything i wrote with just a smidgen of intelligent thought rather than the thought of your dear bearded mullahs, you'll see that your counter-arguments do not in fact address my arguments.
@all you pro-salafs: the way y'all go on and on about how THERE IS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP YOOOOOUUUUU makes you sound like a plague. bad.
i'll mock whatever i want, whenever i want. if i believe i don't need to abstain from the unholiest act of shaving (BLASPHEMY :O) then i'll be vocal about my beliefs, same as you are about yours, TYVM.
and i never used the words good debater (notice its spelt with an E not an O) but since you feel it necessary to confer this title upon me, i thank thee from the bottom of my nonexistent beard. here, have a cookie.
oh and they do rock. and i shall highfive whomsoever i please. you want one? here you go! HIGH FIVE.
happy now?
tolkiwartooth
calm down fella u might have a nervous break down
Guys, look at the reality and circumstances. How many of you are able to take care of your wives or your women. Majority of women are forced to work because men dont have means to protect or look after women. Children are fatherless because men go and marry younger women. Its intepretations of Quran about veil by various scholars are different. I have read many such translations and intepretations. Some say hijab is ok, fundamentalists promote arabic cultural tradions like Niqab and keeping women isolated. I gave Niqab as one example out of many things but some of you like to twist everything. Tradional and modern scholars have differences of opinion about rights of women and yes about Niqab. I guess its not that some dont understand the underlying key messages. Its just some people like to have the last word for the sake of saying something. Islam scholars should have patience, love and faith to listen to others and teach them. I only see filth, accusations and venom from some of those who claim to be protectors of fundamentalists here.
i have left Maldives for good..i am happy now and can live peacefully without seeing drug thugs,gang violence,extreme religious fools and those terrible stupid politicians..whats gonna happen to Maldives??it gonna be another Iran Afghanistan or Pakistan ... soon u ppl will start seeing this ... bomb blowing up and violence every where..good luck
@ tolkiwartooth, fella y ur inner soul is bursting wen it comes to Salafis...heheh LOL...N BE REMINDED THAT U CANT DO ANYTHING AGAINST TO STOP THE "SALAFIS" OR EVEN MOCK THEM
"Unless these recommendations are incorporated in the regulations, Salaf’s letter states, it would be “meaningless” and could “open doors” to other religions and cultures".....
It's been years since no other religion but islam has been practiced in Maldives, why make such a stupid reason for imposing this stupidity???
I think Maldivians should seriously start thinking about about building caves and living like primitive savages like the Afghan extremist cults..
This is the icing on Anni's disaster cake, I voted for a MDP government, Never thought I would regret it.
@ako: omg all you beardies are parrots :O can't even come up with original insults.
anyway. i'm wasting my time here. I'm safe from your attempts to convert everyone to your brand of Islam so i don't give a rat's toot anymore. This thread is dead.
HEY GUYS...watch out i think TOLKIWARTOOTH is going to BURST soooooooooooooooooooooooon...LOL
tolkiwartooth
if any1 was to have a nevous breakdown it wud b our brothers in guantanamobay..but the fact is that they r happy, their eemaan is getting stronger each day..Allah is enough for them no matter how much the enemies torture them..they know their final abode would be eternal paradise insha Allah..this was y recently a guard in guantanamo converted to islam..by seeing the eeman within these people..may Allah guide us all..
And do u think your mocking could harm any of us o islam.NEVER.i advice u bcox nobody cant tolerate the hell fire...v know u r jus a poor foolish helpless "GADDAA VAAN ULHEY" miserable human being..
so pls dont b foolish..dont say watever that cums to your intelligent brain..
may Allah guide us, show us the right path..and forgive us all..Allah is the most merciful..
and Allah knows best
gud luck tolkiwartooth ...it would be better for you health..
@nishan well obviously he has succeeded in pising you guys off dho. kekeke. ehenve ennu you are responding to him so defensively.
kaleymen thigothah thibey dhen echchethi kiyaala kiyaala. ehen kiyaa vaguthu salavaath ves kiyachchey engey. adhi thihaa rulhiais thibegen adhives thi kiyanee ehen meehun burst vaa vaahaka kekekeke.
for all those who are against fundamentalist for gods sake are u nuts???
fundamentals is the basics the true teaching. if u dont know fundamentals of maths u cant do maths right?
enemies of Islam said the fundamentalists (meaning true followers of Islam) should be in Guantanamo and the moderate ( those who say they are Muslims but follow whatever they want) should be free cause they are just stupid
Play that funky music White Boy
I see two writers who claim to be Islamic scholars are Nishan & Rilwan here. Both of them keep repeating same thing & goes around in circles. Their comments shows their lack of knowledge, their discussion lacks logical reasoning of Islam. They seem to think that they have learnt more than anybody else. They also twist words to relate to their thinking even if its not of the writers. They dont want to understand the view points of other commentators as they seem to think they are affliations to Allah. They seem to think they are the only Maldivians who obey Allah and are the perfect Muslims while others are cursed. They like to write the last word to all comments even if it doesnt make any sense. They dont like to give in to others.
@nishan. Excellent. Bring your invasion. Bring your oppression. Bring your laws that will enslave us and turn us into another 'jihadi production colony' to fuel your masters's little war games.
But know this; you will know the terror of modern warfare the moment your friends invade us.
We have defeated a superpower in our time, and we will defeat another invading superpower once again. We shall free our Nation from your imperialistic deathgrip once and for all.
Your "religion" rules by fear, intimidation and coercion. But our power will break your scimitar of fear, this war will quash your intimidation and our victory will break your coercive ploys and expose it for what it is - oppression.
" Your religion rules by fear, intimidation and coercion " well said cant agree more...
few examples..
not wear munuburuga.. ur going to hell
no beard...ur going to hell
listen to music..ur going to hell
watch movies .. ur going to hell
birthday party .. ur going to hell
are these fundies hell sending machines or what???
thts how habbies work....and thats not how islam work ..if you embrace something with force and fear ... thats a false submission and the outcome will never be good or even beneficial
Dear Readers,
ALLAH(SWA) knows what we hide in our breasts.ALLAH(SWA)is our judge.And ALLAH(SWA)is enough for us.
AFTER WRITING COMMENTS,VERSES LIKE THESE "I only see filth, accusations and venom from some of those who claim to be protectors of fundamentalists here"."Didn’t Allah say that suspicion is one hateful behaviour"."Quran 49:12
O ye who believe! avoid suspicion as much (as possible):
for suspicion in some cases is a sin:
and spy not on each other nor speak ill of each other behind their backs.
Would any of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother?… See More
Nay ye would abhor it…but fear Allah:
for Allah is Oft-Returning Most Merciful" AND NOT FOLLOWING THE COMMENTS,VERSE AFFILIATING HUMANS TO ALLAH(SWA) YOU SHOWED YOUR TRUE FACE.HAVE YOU OPEN OUR BREASTS AND READ OUR HEARTS.THIS IS WHAT WE CALL REAL ALLEGATIONS,SUSPICION,FILTH.BACKBITING AND HATEFUL BEHAVIOR.YOU JUST ATE OUR FLESH.WHEN FACED WITH TRUTH PEOPLE ALWAYS WILL REVOLVE TO HATE,ACCUSATIONS AND VIOLENCE.CAUSE THEY CANNOT STAND THE TRUTH.FALSE BY ITS NATURE IS BOUND TO PERISH.YOU JUST WASHED YOUR DIRTY CLOTHES IN THE PUBLIC.
Nigab or covering the face is an issue were the scholars had differed in opinion.Nobody in the Maldivian community is forcing any one to wear Nigab.Salaf , Adhalath or Islamic ministry had never forced any one to wear even hijab.Plus majority of the women in the Maldives don't even wear a hijab.I don't think they are stupid enough to ask them to wear nigab before asking to adhere to Islamic dress code. Plus if you ask Hillary Clinton how does it feel to wear a hijab or nigab you wont get the answer.Ask a women who is wearing the nigab or hijab to know what she feels.
If someone with a beard or without a beard doesn't support his wife or children that doesn't mean that the rest of the people are like that.It is an issue the community should make a note of.Parents should make an extra effort to make their children useful to the community MALE OR FEMALE.The young generations had been vanquished by drugs,violence,robbery,illegal sexual acts,racism,hate,pedophilia and all shorts of crimes and sins.What is the reason? Salaf,Adhaalath or Islamic ministry are to be blamed for this.Parent care in the light of Islam is essential to produce productive youth. Women failing to spend quality time with the children and created chaos in the society.
Below in an article published in BBC.
About 1,200 children were monitored from birth to the age of three.Below is an article from BBC.Hope you wont say this is a hypothesis.
The social and emotional development of babies who were cared for by someone other than the mother was "definitely less good", the report's authors said.
The study, by Oxford University and the University of London, was one of the biggest so far on UK childcare.
Mothers were seen as the best carers, followed by nannies and childminders, then grandparents, and nursery care was the worst, the study said.
Study author Penelope Leach said the results were not a call for all mothers to stay at home and give up work.
Instead, they highlighted a demand for "developmentally appropriate high-quality childcare".
The study does not mean that every child in a large nursery will become a monster
Penelope Leach
Half of the children observed by Dr Leach and co-authors Kathy Sylva and Alan Stein were cared for full-time by their mothers, a third had mothers who returned to work after seven months and 8% had a mother who went back to work after three months.
The study began in 1998 and involved children from London and Oxford.
The babies were seen at three, 10, and 18 months, and again at three years old and just over four.
Aggression
Children not cared for mainly by their mothers also tended to show higher levels of aggression and became more withdrawn, compliant or sad, the study suggested.
"The study does not mean that every child in a large nursery will become a monster," Dr Leach said.
"Nevertheless, it shows a small but significant difference in a large group of children."
Planned childcare
She also said that a "staggering" number of mothers did not follow up the references of their child carers or organised care at the last minute.
"Mothers also often wanted their own mother as the carer because they say `she's family, she loves the baby'," she said.
"But love doesn't necessarily produce the best childcare. That takes planning and thinking about the child and his or her activities."
However, not all mothers were the best at providing care.
Those suffering depression or with priorities other than motherhood would be better leaving their child in another's care, Dr Leach said.
ALLAH(SWA) created us and ALLAH(SWA)knows the best for human beings.If we abandon the law set by ALLAH(SWA) will pay the price.
ALLAH(SWA)knows the best.
MAY ALLAH(SWA) GUIDE US ALL AND MAY ALLAH(SWA)GIVE US THE ABILITY TO JUDGE RIGHT AND WRONG.
THANK YOU.
Anon
il tell u a funnuy story..pls read carefully..
in the time of salahuddin ayyubi, pope mobilsed europe for a new crusade which was the fourth crusade and the largest bcox they were fighting against salahuddin.. the king of o germany the king of England the king of france they themselves were were going to fight against salahuddin..not their generals but the kings themselves went for salahuddin..this was how serious the war was..the army of Frederick Barbarossa, king of germany alone was 300,000..do u know what happened to the king of germany who led the army..he fell off the horse when crossing a stream had a heart attack and died..in other words the king died on water which even didnt reach his knees.Frederick Barbarossa is a name that would strike fear; he was the most powerful of the European Kings but he dies in pool of water..what happened to the army then..army got disunited.. by the time they reached salahuddin the army of 300,000 became 1000..this is the power of Allah..at the end salaahudin won the war against the crusade..
this was just 1 example..
the word nuclear or mass destructive weapons or how large the army doesnt fear us..we only fear Allah..n when Allah is with us no1 can harm us..and we shall defeat the enemies of Allah one day..insha Allah
ASALAAM ALAIKUM BROTHER NISHAN,
May ALLAH(SWA)reward all of you who are spreading the HAQQ.If we have brothers like you to strive in the name of ALLAH(SWA) we don't care if the whole world comes as an army to our doorstep.If we win ,we thank ALLAH(SWA) but none.If we are defeated and martyred INSHA ALLAH we attain what we are striving for day in day out(JANNAH).ALLAH(SWA) IS ENOUGH US.
SALAAM BROTHER.
Rilwan and Nishan keep changing their thoughts with every message. When I wrote that verse about suspicion, Rilwan was critical. Now he uses it because he feels he is the great and all knowing than rest of us. You claim that others have been critical while those so called all knowing here about Islam has been more critical, poisonous and accusative. How do you know that Allah approves what you are doing? How do you know for certain that the way that you lead is the only way approved by Allah while others are as you say will go to hell?
Again I remind to carefully look at the statistics and reality in the context of Maldives. Atoll Radio was just now saying whether women should be allowed to work. This is one channel that is influenced by Salaf. The scholar is saying to look for a man, who can take of his wife, how many men can afford that, is that realistic. Half of the working population of women are working because men can’t take of their wives. The families need the extra income that women can bring to the household. Also majority of the women look after children, work and survive while men divorce their wives and go to marry younger wives. Again evaluate the statistics. Children have been sexually abused many times by so called learned Islamic scholars as well. So it’s not only ignorance that’s happening in Maldives or as you say lack of Islamic law strictly enforced that Salaf supports is missing. Why should taking care of children be only the responsibility of women? Look at the number of children who are fatherless because the men work away from home. Unicef study cites this as one of the main reasons for dysfunctional families and cause to misbehaviour of children. Look at the number of women going around doing more chores than just staying at home because they have to. Violence against women is unbelievably high in Maldives, but it is ignored in the name of Islam. I don’t believe Islam allows mistreatment of women. I know you will twist the words here to make your points which will not address the points. You can strike fear in people about Islam by cursing them, misleading them and brain washing them. Humans are so vulnerable that you can use the above tools to make them kneel at your feet out of fear. Is that what we want in Maldives. I want people who believe in Islam because they sincerely believe deep from their hearts.
@nishan: How many slaves did they promise you?.
Ohh, when we defend ourselves, our children and our land from oppression, we become the "enemies of Allah" in your eyes; and we deserve to be killed, our possessions plundered, our women raped and our children taken as concubines and slave... that's your "Allah's given rights"?
There's a difference between invading, and defending. This time, YOU are the unjust, cruel invaders - and we will stand ready to destroy your invasion.
Do you think your vile propaganda that casts death as your private hitman will scare us? We are not afraid to die. I will gladly fight and die if it will give the chance for our children to live free from your cruelty and oppression.
Dear F.Afiya
Rilwan and i never claimed that we know the unseen and we know who goes to hell or heaven,,nor we claim that v will surely go to heaven..nobody knows what is stored for any of us and nobody knows how any one will end up..the only thing we can do is hope for paradise and fear the torment of Allah and ask Allah to save us from hell fire and to cause us die as Muslims..i seek refuge in Allah from such claims and lies..
As Muslims we are to advice...islam is about giving advice and enjoining good and forbidding evil..
“Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma‘roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:104]
regarding the person who was spreading christianity u argued that v shud not b suspicious..n Rilwan was saying again and again that he was captured with evidence..if you were a true muslim you would not have defended a person who was captured spreading Christianity and with evidence..instead u must be concerned about it. If u do some research u will know how much work is being done by missionaries to spread Christianity and other propagandas..and as muslims we must be aware of their plots and look for their plots..bcox our beloved prophet (pbuh)came to spread the religion of Allah and denounce other relgions..and as muslims its our duty too, to spread islam and denounce other religions as we could .if we find any information regarding any one spreading any religion other than Islam v must report it and take actions to stop it immediately.
and then read the other comments at Rilwan and me.. they are directly mocking the sunna of prophet(pbuh) and saying whatever that comes to their minds regarding Allah..and the same commentators are supporting your views and sending you hi5 and wat ever....if u were really intelligent u would have now understood who is right and who is false..and if u really love islam u would have written comments against the people who are against islam..
but its sad that u r busy proving your self that u r educated and v r not..
May Allah have mercy on us and guide us all to the right path
and Allah knows best.
Anon
sorry..what did u say..glad to what..DIE...no man, u r too weak to want to taste death..PLEASE go on boasting about some other things like your secret propaganda against Islam or about your NERD back ground ... not about DYING...
and as long as u are against Quran and Sunnah u r an enemy of Allah and thus u bcom an enemy of the Muslims..
but if u really want to be an enemy of Allah ..i can only advice u this..u don't even have the guarantee that u will wake up tomorrow morning after u go to sleep tonight..Allah is able to cause u death even now and punish you..who will then save u..your super weapons..huh..no..nobody can save u..
Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good)which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned."Our Lord! punish us not if we forget or fall into error, Our Lord! lay not on us a burden like that which you lay on those before us(Jews and Christians); Our Lord! Put not us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have Mercy on us, You are our Maula(Patron, Supporter and Protector,etc) and give us victory over the disbeleiving people." surah Al-Bagara (286)
@ Rilwan and Nishan. We don’t have to accept and believe the evidence provided by Salaf. Rilwan didn’t have any evidence either but he keeps saying facts. What evidence did he have against anyone without legal procedures? You can’t call anyone a convict unless he is prosecuted. No Muslim or non-Muslim should be called a convict until and unless proven guilty. Government said they will investigate so it’s not saying that the Government had evidence either. So don’t try to rule your own orders or ruling in this country. Evidence is when a court passes a ruling. We cannot have Salaf or your guys do when you pass off sentences on your own in Fundamentalist factions. Didn’t the Government tried to intervene before when many private Salaf groups tried to have their Friday prayers at their homes? Isn’t that what you guys encourage with underage girl-child, to get their consent and marry them off without the approval of the Maldivian courts. Isn’t this one example of Salaf ideology, you can marry off minors if you get consent from her father but you don’t have to get approval of the laws. You talks are baseless without logical reasoning. I agree with Avon, we will stand and defend our nation from Salafism, Adalathism and fundamentalism. I am ready to fight for this worthy cause. As I see there are people who are threat to Islam, are those who try to spread other religions and as well Islam fundamentalists who try to enforce their ruling. So it’s not only the missionaries that majority of us those who love Islam is afraid of but also the extremism religious groups Salaf and people who idolise their ideology. Don’t try to work on my conscience; I am to fight against extremism at any cost. Others have been pointing out their concerns and fear. You have to read and admit your mistakes. Your group started hurling abuse, filth and threatening the peace and harmony of Maldives. You were saying you will spread fundamentalism, you were encouraging Jihad and so on. So if you love Islam, accept other people and their way of life. Maldives is a 100% Muslim state with Constitutional rights granted to each and every Maldivian. So please don’t try to impose your strict rules down our throats. I tried to be diplomatic before but now I am saying what I really think about your guys. I have lost respect for your guys because of your behaviour and your comments here. May Allah guide you to the right path.
Nishan & Rilwan and people like you. One thing I cant understand about and I keep repeating is how do you know that the way you lead is the right way that Allah wants. No matter how intelligent anyone is I dont think I or any humab being can be judge of that. Allah is all knowing. I can only try to do my prayers and lead as a good Muslim. But I dont have to be a fundamentalist to do that. How do you know others are not on the right path just because we dont support fundamentalism and extremism. How can you say that Fundamentalists' belief (Eaman) is stronger than us. This is why I say that you guys beleive that you are super human beings with a knowledge that we dont have. You claim that you are true Muslims while we are not. You claim to have revealings that we do not possess. I dont believe any of it. You guys are trying to use Islam for your own propanganda.
Afiya
this is a fatwa of Sheikh Binbaz (may Allah have mercy on him)when asked about extremism..He Was the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and the Chairman of the Department of Scientific Research and Ifta.
the fatwa is taken from islam q and a..
http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/9431/fundamentalists
Praise be to Allaah.
"Whatever the case, this is a mistake that has come from the east and the west, from the Christians, communists and Jews, and others who try to put people off the call to Allaah and its supporters, and who want to be unfair to the da’wah by calling it extremism or fundamentalism or whatever other names they give it.
Undoubtedly calling people to Allaah is the religion of the Messengers, it is their path and their way. The people of knowledge are obliged to call others to Allaah and to be active in doing so. The youth are obliged to fear Allaah and to adhere to the truth, not to go to extremes or be harsh. It may so happen that some of the youth are ignorant, so they go to extremes in some matters, or they are lacking in knowledge, so they are negligent in some other matters. But all the youth and others, such as the scholars, must fear Allaah and seek the truth with evidence (daleel), i.e., what Allaah and His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said; they must beware of bid’ah (reprehensible innovations) and exaggeration. They must also beware of ignorance and shortcomings. No one among them is infallible, and some of the people may err by doing too much or by falling short. But that does not mean that everyone is at fault; the fault rests with those who make the mistake.
But the enemies of Allaah among the Christians and others who are following in their wake have made this a means of attacking the da’wah and putting an end to it, by accusing its people of being extremists and fundamentalists.
What does “fundamentalism” mean?
If they are fundamentalists in the sense that they adhere to the fundamentals or basic principles (usool), to what Allaah and His Messenger said, then this is praise, not condemnation. Adhering to the fundamentals, the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), is commendable and cannot be condemned. What is to be condemned is when people overdo things or fall short, when they go to extremes or are harsh or do not do what they have to do – this is what is to be condemned. But the person who adheres to the right principles, derived from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), is not at fault; this is perfect and is to be praised. This is what is obligatory upon seekers of knowledge and those who call others to Allaah: they should adhere to the fundamentals from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and whatever they know of the basic principles of fiqh, ‘aqeedah and hadeeth, whatever can be used as evidence (daleel). They have to have basic principles which they follow. Describing the daayi’ahs as fundamentalists is a general word which does not mean anything apart from condemning them and putting people off. Fundamentalism is not a bad thing, in fact it is something good.
If the seeker of knowledge adheres to the fundamentals, paying attention to them and staying up at night to study them from the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and what the scholars have stated, there is nothing wrong with that. But going to extremes in following bid’ah is what is wrong, and going to extremes of ignorance and falling short is also wrong.
The daa’iyahs are obliged to adhere to the fundamentals of sharee’ah and adhere to the middle course to which Allaah has guided them, for Allaah has made them an ummah justly balanced (cf. Al-Baqarah 2:143). So the daa’iyahs have to be justly balanced, treading a middle course between exaggeration and negligence. They have to be steadfast in adhering to the truth, and to adhere to it on the basis of shar’i evidence (daleel). There should be neither exaggeration nor negligence, but the moderation that Allaah has enjoined."
Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Maqaalaat Mutanawwi’ah li Samaahat al-Shaykh al-‘Allaamah ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him), p. 233
As Sheikh has explained in this fatwa there are some people ignorant in this community does not mean everyone is like that..i have been with many people who love Sunna(what u call beardies)and i swear by Allah i have seen them crying when reading Quran seen them weeping when mentioned about azaab of Allah.. ..they pray, they read the holy Quran they learn about islam , they fast and they give charity.. many of them wake up in the middle of the night and ask forgiveness from Allah..many among them are kind people and they always spread salaam ..if this is wrong i have nothing more to say..
Afiya
Allah is most merciful and with His Mercy showed us the right path..right path followers are the followers of the sunnah and the united Islamic community. They comprise those who follow the example of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his companions (may Allaah be pleased with them), and adhere to their principles, beliefs, and practices. This fact is witnessed by the Prophet's (pbuh) statement when he(pbuh) was asked about the party that will be saved and spared (from Hell), in which he(pbuh) said: "They are those who are (i.e., live, act, and believe) as I and my companions are today...
we are trying to be on the right path and hoping that we are on the right path..and as the hadheeth indicates we are trying to follow the example of the prophet(pbuh)and his companions and that is the right path.
@nishan: Ooh, siccing your "islam" hitman on me, are you. This is hilarious.
Your defenses are already breaking; which compels you to call me things like "nerd" or whatever.
Hah, do you know?. I never sleep. Ever. So, consider that "awaken from sleep" as irrelevant.
You swing death around like your own personal army, but did you know?. In the end, you will die too. Do I care about the if/when/how I will die?. No, I don't.
Prove me wrong.
By the way, do you know what your local propaganda outlets say about apostates?. The punishment for apostasy is death, according to them. Curiously, they do not offer solid proof to carry out this verdict, instead giving a nameless, unverifiable "hadhees" that promotes this act. And then, to "reinforce that hadith", they give a line from the Bagaraath surah, that says something to the effect of "woe be unto all non-muslims in this world and the hereafter.". How they twisted that line into "kill all apostates- they are a danger to society." is beyond me.
The typical symptom of a broken defense is when someone starts spouting random religious oaths.
Now, I know where to apply the pressure.
@ Nishan @ Rilwan. I started to read at the top and didnt bother because your statements follow same pattern, repitition of what has already been discussed. Are you calling yourself messengers of Allah as knowledgable people of Islam. Who is decide on that?. Knowledgable people should be able to prove their knowledge or teach which you guys havent been able to do. Your main concern has been to say last words to anyone and promote your salaf thoughts.............You think repeating yourselves here makes you winners. No amount of your preachings will bend our ways to adopt your salaf ideas.
If you salafis leave us alone, and not try to convert us, than we don’t have any problems. Also, if you can stop your agenda to spread your salafism, in order to control and brainwash everybody in the name of Islam. We have no problem with you all practicing whatever you believe. Allah has affirmed that a true Muslim is, anyone who believes in Islam and practice. Isn’t this the point where we disagree? You believe those we don’t follow Salafism or Fundamentalism as promoted by you guys are not true Muslims. According to you, we become true Muslims if go to Jihad, if we go to stone-age, talibanise and disempower our women and so on............
@Fathimath Afiya:
And THAT'S why I consider them as a foreign invasion force.
Dear Afiya,
*I know that you wont read what i have written,the meccan idolaters also plugged their ear with cotton so they wont be able to hear what Muhammed(SAW)preached.
*Iam not a member of salaf , adhaalath,MDP,DRP or anyother.Iam just a servant of ALLAH(SWA).Thats all.
lol. what a lord of crap. Just live your life to the fullest the way you want and be happy people. leave those who want to drink to drink. Those men who want to be with men to be with men. Those women who love women to be with women. As long as they dont intefere with your freaking life, why do you care?
Real Aisha: It INTERFERES with their OH-SO-PERFECT image of society; a society of weak, cowardly, helpless, caged slaves whose only purpose in life is to breed children to serve as cannon fodder for their little war games.
Oh well - let's give them a taste of their own medicine!
@ Rilwan so are you comparing yourself with Muhammed(SAW). If I dont listen to you than I am not a muslim. lol. I am sure Muhammed (SAW) had more patience, competence, capabiilty, tolerance, love for peace, knowledge and love for human kind. If I dont listen than I have cotton in my ears because you think I should because you are a super human being. Let met tell you I am an idependent, free woman who choose to live my life as how I believe Allah wants me to lead. Period.
Avon, I agree with you. Its sure is a foreign force who have invaded Maldives. Our peace disturbed by this foreign force.
afiya
y do u ignore this..once again I will repeat it..agree with me about this line and it is over.."Quran and sunnah of the prophet(pbuh) and his(pbuh) companions way is the way we have to follow"
@ Nishan. Who are you to make me agree on anything lol. You keep changing your versions. I have already said how I believe and what I believe. Go back and see what I have saidd before. I am a firm believer of Islam and I practice. So dont twist words and try to preach anything of salifism. You keep repeating your ideology and asks me to believe in it, which I will never do. I am a true and only Allah knows it. I dont have to prove it you, once I again I repeat.
I am a true Muslim, only Allah is the judge and knows it.
If evolution is a fact, then why this word theory comes at the end of Evolution.
I think the monkeys and other creatures should now slowly be evolving back to their previous forms as the sea level is rising! They sould turn to fish and be swimming in water as there will not be dry land in Maldives. If evolution is really a fact.
Afiya
if u were a true Muslimah u will say it without hesitation that u beleive in Quran and what the prophet(pbuh)has brought..(sunnah)..
@ Nishan you react emotionally before using your head. Lol. Read what I have written before many times. Why are you repeating yourself, do you have any kind of problems? I have already written that even before you said it. So stop being ignorant and listen, read and understand what others say. I don’t have to repeat or agree to anything you say because I have serious doubts about your competence as a person knowledgeable about Islam. Hence, I have lost respect for you and don’t believe in you. I don’t have to prove my faith in Islam to you. If I explain, do you have superior or revealed knowledge to pass judgement on me. I don’t have to agree anything to what you say. You ask similar questions over and over again and I have to repeat same thing what I have already highlighted. Isn’t it stupid that we go in circles? Lol.
“They (Jews and Christians) took their Rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things wish they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah)...."(Quran 9:31)...so..herez the deal...weve got the Quran...so any one who is a muslim will read, understand and act upon that. no middleman required. having these LORDsheikhs is shirk and kufr.[so adhaalath and salaf are the real kafirs here].
if god wanted to guide us by force or by a religious unity act...he would have revealed that act instead of the quran. if he wanted adhaalath and salaf to convert us with abuse of authority, power and by threats of violence and death....god, in all his wisdom, would have sent islamic parties and NGOs instead of a prophet.